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Perhaps, the problem is once you notice it, the ssssibilance sticks out like a sore thumb every time you listen.frown.gif

 

Can you check the first part of 'Weird Fishes/Arpeggi' on your set-up and see if the red lyrics are sibilant?

 

In the deepest ocean
The bottom of the sea
Your eyes
They turn me

Why should I stay here?
Why should I stay?

I'd be crazy not to follow
Follow where you lead
Your eyes
They turn me

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Originally Posted by shamrock134 View Post

Perhaps, the problem is once you notice it, the ssssibilance sticks out like a sore thumb every time you listen.frown.gif

 

Can you check the first part of 'Weird Fishes/Arpeggi' on your set-up and see if the red lyrics are sibilant?

 

 

I don't have In Rainbows. But I should, I'll pick it up today on my way home from work.


Edited by obzilla - 5/19/12 at 5:05am
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I think everyone reacts differently to sibilance. Although some may not be able to tolerate a bright sibilant sound, there may be others who are impervious to this quality of sound.

 

For what it's worth, I just received my first pair of headphones(Beyer T1) and Meier Corda Jazz this morning. I have never owned or listened to full-sized headphones before, and I find a slight discomfort when listening to the T1 in the first 5 minutes. Coming from a reasonably decent loudspeaker-based system, I find the sound from headphones to concentrate around the ears as if it is trying to force its way into my head. I experienced a mild headache in the first 5 minutes listening to Adele on FLAC. Perhaps the headphones and headamp need some run-in, or perhaps I need to adapt to the new listening experience.

 

Anyway, I moved the T1 from the PC setup to the main hifi system since Adele on FLAC had given me a slight headache. When the T1s and headphone amp are conencted to a good source(CD player) and good recording(tried Lee Ritenour), the sound quality seems to show off better though bass punch is still lacking when comparison is made to loudspeakers. I am beginning to feel and appreciate the quality of the T1s and believe they will grow on me with time to come. I've just spent about 10 minutes with the T1/Corda Jazz amp and am beginning to like what I am hearing. I believe the gear will open up and sound better with continuous run-in(the sound is *slightly* hard at the moment, though sounding very good and poised).


Edited by ryder78 - 5/19/12 at 5:53am
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I just tried Weird Fishes/Arpeggi and I can hear the SSS that you have mentioned. My chain was Foobar - DACport - Concerto - T1.

I believe is the recording of the album. As much as I like Radiohead they don't have the best recorded album, it's a shame. redface.gif

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Originally Posted by shamrock134 View Post

Perhaps, the problem is once you notice it, the ssssibilance sticks out like a sore thumb every time you listen.frown.gif

Can you check the first part of 'Weird Fishes/Arpeggi' on your set-up and see if the red lyrics are sibilant?

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Edited by Twinster - 5/19/12 at 5:54am
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I just tried Weird Fishes/Arpeggi and I can hear the SSS that you have mentioned. My chain was Foobar - DACport - Concerto - T1.
I believe is the recording of the album. As much as I like Radiohead they don't have the best recorded album, it's a shame. redface.gif

 

I've had mixed results with the Radiohead CDs. My favorite album, The Bends, sounds pretty average whereas OK Computer sounds fantastic. The worst I own is Pablo Honey. I don't know if they're changing up recording environments each time or what, but there is a lot of variation among their albums.

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It really is so dependent on the source and the recording too. Ive a few cds from well known bands and poor mastering can really get highlighted with a high quality amp and headphone.

I dont think the t1s accentuate siblance, but i do find the hd800s can. I like the slightly less forced treble of the t1s. But im very susceptible to hearing siblance too so i know some people wont agree. The audeze lcd frequency curve is very flat which is good for people who like a more rolled off, softer high end curve.

Ive a few radiohead albums and i do agree with someone else earlier in the thread who said their recordings have quite a variation in quality.
Edited by zardon - 5/19/12 at 7:26am
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It really is so dependent on the source and the recording too. Ive a few cds from well known bands and poor mastering can really get highlighted with a high quality amp and headphone.
I dont think the t1s accentuate siblance, but i do find the hd800s can. I like the slightly less forced treble of the t1s. But im very susceptible to hearing siblance too so i know some people wont agree. The audeze lcd frequency curve is very flat which is good for people who like a more rolled off, softer high end curve.
Ive a few radiohead albums and i do agree with someone else earlier in the thread who said their recordings have quite a variation in quality.

headzone game 1.jpgI was wondering why people don't buy the a1 amp to go with the t1s? http://www.whathifi.com/review/beyerdynamic-a1 I will be getting two pairs of t1s and two headzone games for the bedrooms to go with wii u game consoles..For my new pc build i will be getting the realizer a8 with stax headphone amp combo that comes bundled with package!


Edited by our martin - 5/19/12 at 9:34am
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There are better amps than the a1..... I tend to prefer a balanced tube amp... But they can cost a fair bit.
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headzone game 1.jpgI was wondering why people don't buy the a1 amp to go with the t1s? 

 

 

 

+1

 

 

hmmm, i dunno. i have WA2 though wink.gif

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+1

 

 

hmmm, i dunno. i have WA2 though wink.gif

Here's some nice relaxing music for you all to listen to while you are reading the threads...http://soundcloud.com/jazzmoslounge/guidos-lounge-cafe-broadcast I am going for the woo audio wes with stax009 and naim nds and naim xps power supply they should be good together..p.s I never heard of woo audio until i came to new york being from england that is!  

Naim launches £6250 NDS network music player

22 Feb 2012

Naim has today released details of its NDS 'high-end network player', which we first covered on the site three weeks ago.

The new player, which will sell for £6250 when it arrives in the shops – Naim estimates that will be in May – , will get its first public demonstrations at the Bristol Sound & Vision show this weekend.

The idea behind the NDS was to 'design a network player that is demonstrably superior to the NDX', and the result of the development work, the company says, 'is a network player capable of the finest musical performance yet. A player that delivers more music with CD rips that most players do with hi-res sources.'

Like the company's high-end CD players, the NDS has no power supply built-in, but needs to be used with one of Naim's external power supply units.

It has two power inputs, one of which is usually linked with a plug, and can be used with the slimline XP5 XS power supply, the XPS2, or all the way up to two 555PS power supplies.

Naim's Paul Stephenson says that, like other Naim network music players, the NDS offers a clear upgrade path for consumers, and also allows owners of high-end Naim systems to switch from playing CDs to streaming music if they wish, while still retaining their current power supplies.

In addition to streaming music from a network, the NDS offers connectivity for USB media and iPods, and also has built-in internet radio and three digital inputs for external sources.

Output is on a choice of Naim's usual DIN socket or a pair of RCA phonos for analogue, or a BNC digital connection.

It can be controlled using the handset supplied, or using the n-Stream app running on an iPod Touch, iPhone or iPad.

Naim says the new model 'takes its place above the award winning ND5 XS and NDX as the reference Naim network player, and it changes the high-end audio game – fundamentally.'

For more on the NDS, see our report from Monday's launch event at Naim's Salisbury HQ.
 


Edited by our martin - 5/19/12 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by shamrock134 View Post

Perhaps, the problem is once you notice it, the ssssibilance sticks out like a sore thumb every time you listen.frown.gif

 

Can you check the first part of 'Weird Fishes/Arpeggi' on your set-up and see if the red lyrics are sibilant?

 

Similar situation here. I notice the sibilance on the T1s as indicated above. I've also noticed it for the HD800s as well. The HD650s do not exhibit this behavior on the track though. I'm going with the album is just recorded and mastered that way and having more veiled cans (like the HD650s) can mask the sibilance a little more effectively.

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Has anyone changed the verlour earpads of the T1? What is the normal or recommended duration to replace the earpads of the T1, or any other headphones with fabric/verlour earpads? Once a year, or once in every 2 years? (with normal usage of say 10 hours per week)

 

Any information appreciated.

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One more thing. Is it easy to replace the earpads on the T1? What are the tips or things that are required to do? Do we just tear out the existing verlour earpads and stick the new one with glue or something?

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Thread Starter 

The ear pads just come right off. Gently pull the off and swap new ones on. The T1 uses the black DT990 velours.

 

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One more thing. Is it easy to replace the earpads on the T1? What are the tips or things that are required to do? Do we just tear out the existing verlour earpads and stick the new one with glue or something?

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The ear pads just come right off. Gently pull the off and swap new ones on. The T1 uses the black DT990 velours.

 

 

Thanks. That is good to hear. This information is certainly a godsend for me as I thought the earpads are in some ways stuck to the earpiece with some sort of adhesion.

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