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post #1861 of 10479

Are you talking about Ceremonials by Florence? I was disappointed in both the music and the actual recording quality. You should give Lungs a chance though, that disc is fantastic in both respects.

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Are you talking about Ceremonials by Florence? I was disappointed in both the music and the actual recording quality. You should give Lungs a chance though, that disc is fantastic in both respects.



Ceremonials is the one. I probably will try Lungs different engineer. Thanks for the tip. i will throw it in my cart. I am looking forward to leonard Cohen new album also

post #1863 of 10479
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Ceremonials is the one. I probably will try Lungs different engineer. Thanks for the tip. i will throw it in my cart. I am looking forward to leonard Cohen new album also


x2 for me! smile.gif

 

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post #1865 of 10479

florence + the machine = one of my fav albums, and great artist too!

post #1866 of 10479

Listening to Drive (2011) OST at the mo. Really enjoying it (loved the film). Sounds great with the T1's. 80's electronica that favours detail with that addictive mid bass punch, mixed with the more harmonious moody tracks. Nice mix.

 

Preview here.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B0057VDGNK

post #1867 of 10479

I hope Sharon Robinson is playing with

ole' Leonard Cohen agin.

 

post #1868 of 10479

Cosmic Love from the same album (Lungs) is the only song that makes me want to consider a sex change.

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Cosmic Love from the same album (Lungs) is the only song that makes me want to consider a sex change.



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Cosmic Love from the same album (Lungs) is the only song that makes me want to consider a sex change.



Got lucky my older daughter has Lungs and gonna burn me a copy

post #1871 of 10479

To get an idea of what I'm talking about with the sibilance I hear, I present you:

 

 

Regardless of whether you actually enjoy the song, the sibilance is grating. It's from one of my favorite anime series and is much like an American pop rock ballad.

post #1872 of 10479

Yesterday I finally built a 120Ω adaptor for the T1. I've been planning to make one for ages, but so far I've been too lazy...

 

Anyway, I must say that the change the 120Ω makes is quite agreeable.

So far I've listened for two or three hours with the adaptor, did some A/B-ing, and my initial impressions are that it shaves off some of the treble and adds to the bass, especially sub-bass. The bad thing is, with the adaptor the T1 loses some of its speed, some of its crispness. But on the positive side, the sound becomes more relaxed without being warm or fuzzy. There's still a nice amount of treble and airiness, but it does sound more natural now. Almost comparable to a HD600 in some regards. But what really got me was the sub-bass, the kind you feel rather than hear it. Listening to King Crimson's "Red" album, which has a lot of deep bass notes, certainly put a smile to my face...

 

I will have to do some further listening with this adaptor, but I think this (artificial) added output impedance is the main reason why the T1 reportedly pairs so well with OTL tube amps such as the CSP2 and the WA2 (both have an output impedance of around 60Ω).

 

Oh, and this adaptor abolishes any possible sibilance issues there might be with the T1.

@ ZenErik, I just listened to that song you posted. Without the adaptor, there is sibilance with the T1, although I would not say it is unlistenable. I've heard worse. But with the 120Ω adaptor, there is no sibilance. At all.

I strongly recommend to try this rather simple "mod" to anyone who has issues with harsh treble and/or sibilance with the T1. Unless you already have an amp with a high output impendance, that is!


Edited by Mad Dude - 1/15/12 at 3:11am
post #1873 of 10479
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Anyway, I must say that the change the 120Ω makes is quite agreeable.

So far I've listened for two or three hours with the adaptor, did some A/B-ing, and my initial impressions are that it shaves off some of the treble and adds to the bass, especially sub-bass. The bad thing is, with the adaptor the T1 loses some of its speed, some of its crispness. But on the positive side, the sound becomes more relaxed without being warm or fuzzy. There's still a nice amount of treble and airiness, but it does sound more natural now.


x2 + bigger Soundstage.

 

It was the main idea of the beyer engineers to use the T1 with high output Impedance ports.

 

post #1874 of 10479

Excellent post. Thanks for the detailed response and findings. Keep us updated!

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Dude View Post

Yesterday I finally built a 120Ω adaptor for the T1. I've been planning to make one for ages, but so far I've been too lazy...

 

Anyway, I must say that the change the 120Ω makes is quite agreeable.

So far I've listened for two or three hours with the adaptor, did some A/B-ing, and my initial impressions are that it shaves off some of the treble and adds to the bass, especially sub-bass. The bad thing is, with the adaptor the T1 loses some of its speed, some of its crispness. But on the positive side, the sound becomes more relaxed without being warm or fuzzy. There's still a nice amount of treble and airiness, but it does sound more natural now. Almost comparable to a HD600 in some regards. But what really got me was the sub-bass, the kind you feel rather than hear it. Listening to King Crimson's "Red" album, which has a lot of deep bass notes, certainly put a smile to my face...

 

I will have to do some further listening with this adaptor, but I think this (artificial) added output impedance is the main reason why the T1 reportedly pairs so well with OTL tube amps such as the CSP2 and the WA2 (both have an output impedance of around 60Ω).

 

Oh, and this adaptor abolishes any possible sibilance issues there might be with the T1.

@ ZenErik, I just listened to that song you posted. Without the adaptor, there is sibilance with the T1, although I would not say it is unlistenable. I've heard worse. But with the 120Ω adaptor, there is no sibilance. At all.

I strongly recommend to try this rather simple "mod" to anyone who has issues with harsh treble and/or sibilance with the T1. Unless you already have an amp with a high output impendance, that is!



 

post #1875 of 10479

Interesting findings. The stock T1's bass is one of my favourite aspects of it. The lost of "crispness" would be undesirable to me as well. Wouldn't hurt to try it out though.

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