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post #1006 of 10479

Thanks for your impression :) One quick question, do they maintain the unbelievable comfort I've only encountered with Beyer's headphones? I'm going to guess it just gets better once you spend a grand on 'em, but it bears making sure rather than assuming, if you don't mind my asking.
 

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Originally Posted by Olias of Sunhillow View Post




In my opinion and assuming that your amp is up to the job, the T1 is pretty much exactly what you're looking for. I owned the HD650, K702 and DT880 when I bought the T1... I sold the other three within a few months for lack of use.

 

The T1...

 

...has excellent detail and soundstage, but not the exaggerated detail and soundstage of the K701.

...has bass quantity that approaches (but is not quite equal to) the DT-990, but with much better bass quality and greater depth.

...sounds more like the HD650 than the HD800 sounds like the HD650, but is an improvement in every way.

 



 

post #1007 of 10479

So what about the Koss ESP-950??? how does it compare to T1

post #1008 of 10479

T1s have landed..SN 4898

post #1009 of 10479

4196 here. forgot to say my sn.  

congrats leng

post #1010 of 10479

Hmm mine are #5034

 

They sound somewhere in between the HD800 and HD650.

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Quote:Originally Posted by Shahrose 


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I'm not sure why so many around here ignore this fact. They dismiss certain high-end headphones because of the mediocrity of the system feeding them."


I totally agree. Headphones are part of an entire system. If someone expects to plug the T1 (HD800, HE500, LCD2) into an iPod (which I've read) using mp3 music and think they're getting the best out of them they're kidding themselves. This isn't a budget system. It requires an investment.

People are free to do as they want but I don't think that someone that has a T1 and the rest of the links in the chain fall short shouldn't either claim the headphones are bad or conversely shouldn't say that they've got the best out of the T1 and recommend that source or amps aren't important.

post #1012 of 10479

By the way why isn't this thread in Summit-fi?

post #1013 of 10479

 

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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley View Post

Thanks for your impression :) One quick question, do they maintain the unbelievable comfort I've only encountered with Beyer's headphones? I'm going to guess it just gets better once you spend a grand on 'em, but it bears making sure rather than assuming, if you don't mind my asking.
 

 


Now that Beyer has changed the headband on the T1, I would say that the comfort of the T1 is about on par with the DT770/880/990.  The first headband on the T1 was somewhat stiff and, when combined with the additional weight of the T1, could start to bother the crown of my head after a couple hours.  The new headband is much softer and does a much better job distributing the additional weight.  I can wear the T1 indefinitely now without any discomfort.

 

The T1 is probably now the second most comfortable pair of headphones I own -- right behind the HD800 biggrin.gif

post #1014 of 10479

I can just about (if I scrape it) afford these, and I do badly want them. It's just the amp situation that scares me. As someone with very little experience with full size amps thus far, I'm afraid the selection and costs of full size amps themselves are the thing that's keeping me from getting the T1's, despite having some decent portable amps (SR-71A and cMoyBB).

 

If someone were to ask me to reommend them a budget portable amp that could drive pretty much any of their IEM's (inc customs), I'd recommend the JDS cMoy without hesitation. I'm confident it could provide performance comparable to some of the higher end portable devices at only a fraction of the cost. As far as I can tell there isn't a full size amp of this equivilant.

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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley View Post

Thanks for your impression :) One quick question, do they maintain the unbelievable comfort I've only encountered with Beyer's headphones? I'm going to guess it just gets better once you spend a grand on 'em, but it bears making sure rather than assuming, if you don't mind my asking.
 


I don't think they're quite as comfortable as I recall the DT880 and DT990 being, but they're still far and away the most comfortable cans I own.

 

post #1016 of 10479

The DT880/DT990 are slightly more comfortable and have a much lighter cable, but the T1 is still a very comfy can. It doesn't quite disappear on your head like the HD800 though.

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Originally Posted by Olias of Sunhillow View Post




I don't think they're quite as comfortable as I recall the DT880 and DT990 being, but they're still far and away the most comfortable cans I own.

 



Yeah, they're not quite as comfortable as the DT880, largely due to the increased driver weight, I think. But it's still very good.

 

In the meantime, I've been pretty much blown away on all fronts by the Denon AH-D7000. Very musical. And like having a full-range towering speaker system on your ears. But much more comfortable than that :-)

 

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Yeah, they're not quite as comfortable as the DT880, largely due to the increased driver weight, I think. But it's still very good.

 

In the meantime, I've been pretty much blown away on all fronts by the Denon AH-D7000. Very musical. And like having a full-range towering speaker system on your ears. But much more comfortable than that :-)

 


Nice, that's exactly how I felt when I first got my D7000s. Then I got the T1s and they made the D7K sound cavernous, recessed, sibilant, and artificial to me. Getting over that bass was very hard though.

 

post #1019 of 10479

Copy and pasted from another thread:

 

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Setup: Oppo BD-93 -> Darkvoice 332 (The T1s didn't sound right with the Burson after some brief listening - I'll revisit later).

 

One day of listening and I am loving my first foray into Beyerdynamic audio. Guess it helps when you start at the top. The T1s easily have the best tonal balance of any headphone I've heard. To my ears its simply perfect. As others have mentioned before, these phones are genuine all rounders with no glaring deficiencies to speak of.

 

The bass response surprised me - these things have some serious performance in the low end. I would say they are slightly above neutral. Unlike the D7000s, the T1s seem to possess ample impact but enough control that it doesn't disrupt the midrange frequencies. The bass line at the beginning of Incubus' The Original has great impact and clarity. The T1s retain their sonic integrity on even the most bass heavy tracks. This is not a strike against the D7000s...anyone buying them knows what they're getting. If you're listening to Bloc Party you'll each for the T1s, but if you're in the mood for Daft Punk its D7000 time. In terms of pure quantity, the T1s are up around D7000 levels without the emphasis on mid-bass. The depth surpasses that of the K702/HD650/D7000 to my ears, though I'm sure many will contest that notion.

 

Detail is wonderful and competes with the K702 in this regard. Its painfully easy to hear which tracks are one dimensional on the T1s. Find the right recording and it'll seem like a puzzle being put together right before your ears. Angus & Julia Stone's Yellow Brick Road was so laden with detail it could have crumbled at any second. Modest Mouse's We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank sounded rejuvenated and energetic on the T1s. Compared to the K702s the detail levels are similar, but they're more upfront and apparent on the AKG offering.

 

Vocals are pretty smooth thanks to the slightly relaxed treble response and warmish midrange. Florence and the Machine's Lungs is a disc I've had sibilance issues with in the past but the T1s don't exhibit any here. Female vocals are quite intimate sounding, reminiscent of the HD650s (their biggest strength IMO) which is impressive. The D7000s don't even come into the conversation here. On the T1s, Leona Lewis' rendition of Run has never sounded better. Perhaps the one aspect of the T1s I'm disappointed with is the soundstage - it just doesn't appear to sound that airy especially in contrast to the AKG K702. Intstrument separation is good, if not great. Whether it be due to my amp or my inflated expectations, it has left me wanting more. Perhaps burn in will help, or not.

 

Build quality wise these are the best out of all the cans I've owned. Definitely sturdier the D7000s and classier than the HD650s. The T1 logo is incredibly suave. I won't say they're more comfortable than the D7000s which are like placing cushions on your ears, but the T1s do fine; easily besting the HD650/AKG 702s.

post #1020 of 10479

Nice impressions and glad you like them. They are great with tubes for sure. I also have the D7000 for my closed time like now when my kids have the TV on they cant hear the T1 so there is still a place for me for my D7000.

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