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post #946 of 1349
Hi Aivar

I used the dac 2 against the benchmark dac1 usb and the dac 2 is better in every way. The bass is clearer and the highs are more natural. The overall presentation was just easier to listen to.

But now I have upgraded to the invicta dac and again another level up. But with that said the dac 2 price to performance is extremely good.

Best upgrade for the dac 2 would be a very good usb to spdif converter. I used the audiophilleo 2 with pure power.
post #947 of 1349
Thats what im planning, to buy some good usb to spdif but not right now. Now all my funds went on dac2 :-) i wouldnt even sell my benchmark if it had remote wich would really make things a lot more comfy.
Edited by aivar1988 - 12/4/12 at 6:54pm
post #948 of 1349

I'm another happy DAC2 owner. Thanks to Macedonian Hero and others for their impressions before I purchased.

 

I listen to mine for many hours a day. It's definitely the most enjoyable DAC I've owned so far. I run USB to a Mac Mini and coax to a Rega Saturn CD.

 

The CD is an interesting comparison, since I can switch back-and-forth between the DAC2 and the Saturn's analog outs. The DAC2 is more lively and revealing with more sparkle. The Saturn is warmer and laid-back. Most of the time, I prefer listening to the DAC2 and just use the Saturn as a transport.

post #949 of 1349
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by aivar1988 View Post

Thats what im planning, to buy some good usb to spdif but not right now. Now all my funds went on dac2 :-) i wouldnt even sell my benchmark if it had remote wich would really make things a lot more comfy.

Why don't you want to go direct w/the USB?

post #950 of 1349
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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

Why don't you want to go direct w/the USB?

in future dac will be too far away from PC, to connect i will need like 4m long cable, thats why i needed remote too. and i think its better to connect it via 4m coax than 4m usb cable. plus i hear sound will be better too with usb to spdif feeding it. but yes at first i will connect via usb until i get this usb to spdif some day.

correct me if im wrong about usb vs coax with long cable ( ~4m ) as far as i know for long runs the best would be aes/ebu that u3 has for example ?

now you guys can give me recommendations about usb to spdif converter... stello u3, audiophilleo 2 or something else for dac2 ?


Edited by aivar1988 - 12/5/12 at 9:12am
post #951 of 1349

the best thing to do is to run the majority of the length using USB cable.  because you can easily do several meters with USB without any problem.

and keep the digital signal cables fairly short.  (i.e., AES/EBU, coaxial RCA, etc.)

 

i believe i have read that the optimal length for coax is about 1 meter.

 

i can attest that the DAC2 benefits significantly from the use of a USB/spdif converter.

this is not a criticism of the DAC2.  i own it, and continue to use and enjoy it.

 

i just personally believe that the asynchronous USB in the DAC2 was "a good first attempt" by W4S.

other stand-alone devices such as the Audiophilleo2 with Pure Power do the job a bit better.

the sound improvements include wider soundstage, cleaner treble, lower noise floor.  the usual things you would expect...

 

cheers!!!!

post #952 of 1349
So you are saying its better to use long usb cable instead of coax or aes/ebu ? i tought aes/ebu is best for longer lenghts..
post #953 of 1349
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post

the best thing to do is to run the majority of the length using USB cable.  because you can easily do several meters with USB without any problem.

and keep the digital signal cables fairly short.  (i.e., AES/EBU, coaxial RCA, etc.)

 

i believe i have read that the optimal length for coax is about 1 meter.

 

i can attest that the DAC2 benefits significantly from the use of a USB/spdif converter.

this is not a criticism of the DAC2.  i own it, and continue to use and enjoy it.

 

i just personally believe that the asynchronous USB in the DAC2 was "a good first attempt" by W4S.

other stand-alone devices such as the Audiophilleo2 with Pure Power do the job a bit better.

the sound improvements include wider soundstage, cleaner treble, lower noise floor.  the usual things you would expect...

 

cheers!!!!

 

I read that due to timing and reflections in the digital cable, 0.5 meter or 1.5 meter is better than 1 meter. Only a few dollars more, so I switched to 1.5 M tongue_smile.gif just in case! The first thing I noticed was an extremely difficult tube pairing was made to dance together...without stepping on the other's toes - USAF-596 & TS-BGRP inside my WA 6 Special Edition. Three weeks in and prior to the cable swap, I wanted to sell what I had believed to be the overrated TS-BGRP's! The cable swap turned things around. Lastly, I owned both coax cables for a couple of months and do not chalk up my findings to having a good day inside the room. biggrin.gif

 

I also compared the W4S DAC1 (upgraded Digital Board; Low ESR "Super Caps") USB interface against the MHDT USBridge coax @ 16/44.1 kHz and found coax input to be the clear preference.

post #954 of 1349
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Heads up for everyone.  I contacted Clint about any future upgrades like DSD and he responded that "We are currently working on an upgrade program for the DAC-2 that may include things such as DSD support via USB, upgraded regulators, new display, etc. I can't offer any more details yet because they are not finalized. Please let me know if your interested and I can put you on a list to be contacted once I have more information."    Pretty cool sounding!  I'm on the list!

post #955 of 1349
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Heads up for everyone.  I contacted Clint about any future upgrades like DSD and he responded that "We are currently working on an upgrade program for the DAC-2 that may include things such as DSD support via USB, upgraded regulators, new display, etc. I can't offer any more details yet because they are not finalized. Please let me know if your interested and I can put you on a list to be contacted once I have more information."    Pretty cool sounding!  I'm on the list!

What is the contact info to get on the list?

post #956 of 1349
Thread Starter 

Just contact them through the website and request it.

post #957 of 1349
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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

Just contact them through the website and request it.

if you get any more new info, can you share it here too ? :)

post #958 of 1349
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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

Just contact them through the website and request it.

Thanks!
post #959 of 1349
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by aivar1988 View Post

if you get any more new info, can you share it here too ? :)

Will do!

post #960 of 1349
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Originally Posted by Icenine2 View Post

Heads up for everyone.  I contacted Clint about any future upgrades like DSD and he responded that "We are currently working on an upgrade program for the DAC-2 that may include things such as DSD support via USB, upgraded regulators, new display, etc. I can't offer any more details yet because they are not finalized. Please let me know if your interested and I can put you on a list to be contacted once I have more information."    Pretty cool sounding!  I'm on the list!

Upgrading the board in the DAC-2 to support DSD and their new uLINK technology makes a lot of sense.

Hope they get this worked out. I'd buy it tongue_smile.gif

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