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Originally Posted by KneelJung View Post

I responded to a PM from another head fier yesterday with regard to how these modded 60's stacked up against other Grado's. I used the 225 as my reference point. IMO the stock 225's sound much better than a stock 60 but they are very very similar in terms of their sound signature they are just more Grado. The bass ia a little better, the mids are smoother and more liquidy, and they offer a little more clarity and definition. Overall it's just a better headphone. I think a good analogy is it's sort of like the difference between 128kps and 256kps and they seem to have a little more dimensionality to them, they are airier sounding.

 

The modded SR60 though bridges the gap. Some are still going to prefer the 225 and the no muss no fuss approach, plug and play. My impressions on the 60 I modded is, recabling it with the 4 braided silver brought out more details and improved the clarity quite a bit, and the punch mod added some bass. The big difference is the tonal quality of the wood versus plastic. The wood is much more organic and has a more natural resonance. Not quite sure about soundstage yet though. I've done some extensive listening with jumbos and it adds quite a bit to the soundstage. Moreso than a 225 with bowls. It comes at a sacrifice though because they diffuse quite a bit of the Grado energy. They dont completely suck out the mids like they did when I tried them on the HF2 but they do get recessed. It also provides for a little darker presentation. It tames the highs, which to some extent is not all that bad of a thing.

 

I did some tinkering yesterday and switched some pads around. I posted on this above. Right now I'm using the comfies but I would like to find a compromise somewhere between what the bowls present and what the jumbos present. Any thoughts on that yet Bill?

 

And my HF2 got some head time yesterday too. I absolutely love that headphone. 


I'm having trouble getting the thoughts out.  Somebody (ahem) sent me Joe Bonamassa's The Ball of John Henry and I'm currently having an out of body experience.  With so much forgettable, avoidable radio noisy in my life, it's a pure listening pleasure to hear this track, with its perfect-live-recording quality to it.  I'm test-driving a headphone using Brazilian rosewood shells and, while my mind tells me I'm listening unamped, my ears think I'm getting it amped.  That guitar on Last Kiss is just incendiary.  It ought to be illegal is seven states.  Why isn't THIS playing on the radio?

 

Coming back to the point, I agree that the sweet spot is going to be somewhere between the bowls and the jumbos.  The jumbos sound terrific off an amped source where all that air comes as a relief to the claustrophobia of heavy bass.  With unamped sources, the bowls give better bass, but you do miss the soundstage and air.  I had a good experience creating a toilet pad of one half of a pad on top of a bow. slipping in some extra air without losing too much energy and/or bass.  This weekend, between projects, I'm going to see what I can do to leather up some pads. I do believe that the saving grace of the little pads (comfies/flats) is that they hold onto the bass, but at a cost in soundstage.  The bowls are the golden mean of pads.  The jumbos are harder to use on unamped sources because the bass has trouble keeping up.  If (oh my God, there goes Jockey Full of Bourbon) the cushion were leathered up, you could afford the luxury of distance.  I'm going to give it a try before the weekend is up.

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Just wait till things get funkier than a Mosquito's tweeter. The title track is my favorite on that record though and Stop is an awesome song too, and this will really blow your mind...that's not even his best record.

 

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Quick question for ya man, hope ya dont mine yet another one :)
Ehm, with some basic mods(no opening the headphone im too inexperienced for such manners) and replacing of the cable to silver. Do you think SR60s could be as good as the Audio Technica Ath-M50s?
Thanks
Mark

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Originally Posted by marko93101 View Post

Quick question for ya man, hope ya dont mine yet another one :)
Ehm, with some basic mods(no opening the headphone im too inexperienced for such manners) and replacing of the cable to silver. Do you think SR60s could be as good as the Audio Technica Ath-M50s?
Thanks
Mark


No. They are much better than the m50s after being modded.

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I put the dynamat on the back of the driver, and and took it back off it seems to tame the highs a bit, but also it tightens the bass.  So now Im back to boomish bass, and team treble highs, which I like.  

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I've been screwing around with earpads...no mods, modded, modded and upside down, Bowls...it sounds to me like the closer you get your ear to actual driver housing the bass increases, just between a modded pad and that same pad upside down...which is like millimeters difference probably you can notice a change!!! 

 I need a life!!!!

Is there any physical difference between SR60's and SR125's except for the larger plug on the 125's?? The cable looks and feels the same, the housing looks and feels the same, logo button has a different number-got that. I fail to see any difference....I must be missing something...

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Bill- I'm trying to figure out how to make a  - BilaGrado - logo....I should of gotten you to sign a piece of paper so I could find someone to make little logo badges....LOL.. That would so cool.....

 

So these 125's have 1/4 Jack native and I need a headphone extension cord to sit and chill and I have one thats fine but I can't find 1/4 to mini adapter, I of course have like 3 of every other kind made on the planet....I know its here somewhere...

 

Should I mod the 125's??? I think I have too.....I still have a little dynamat....


Well you could go the simple way, just make something saying BG rather than SR-60.

Anybody done this with iGrados yet? I don't really want to begin a teardown of my 125is yet with no backups in the event of their death, and seeing how I plan on doing every part as a woodie, I don't see how it would be any different than doing this with a pair of 60s. Well, except I'd have to completely fab the band from scratch unless I take my 125 band off and use that.

And about the iGrados, can anybody say whether they are the same as the SR-60 drivers or not? Grado's site says they are the same in the description, yet the "Features" section says UHPLC everything on the iGrados, and Standard on the SR-60 ("UHPLC Copper Voice Coil" doesn't reappear until the SR-125i, and "UHPLC Copper Connecting Cord" doesn't reappear until the SR-325is)
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There's always been a lot of arguments and heresay when it comes to what the difference between the Grado drivers are. I believe there's some talk of it earlier in this thread. There is lots of it other places on here at least. Its always been been a controversial issue.

 

In other news, I was finally able to get some cheap letter trays at a Dollar Tree today. However they are still ridged on the bottom. There is a little over 2" of flat material so I am hoping I can work with that or at least manage to flatten out the screen. I was willing to pay a dollar to play around at least though.

 

Does anyone have any Dynamat left, I would love to play around with it but I don't need a giant amount?

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Originally Posted by eclein View Post

I've been screwing around with earpads...no mods, modded, modded and upside down, Bowls...it sounds to me like the closer you get your ear to actual driver housing the bass increases, just between a modded pad and that same pad upside down...which is like millimeters difference probably you can notice a change!!! 

 I need a life!!!!

Is there any physical difference between SR60's and SR125's except for the larger plug on the 125's?? The cable looks and feels the same, the housing looks and feels the same, logo button has a different number-got that. I fail to see any difference....I must be missing something...


The 125 uses 8 conductor instead of 4 for the wires. Other than that, they are largely the same thing
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sml1226- I'm going to mod these SR125's and its a different model number and probably as old as you are, (I'm 53 ) and if I see anything odd, different, already done, undone, etc..I'll post it here...but I'm going full-- BilaCocobola with my SR60's and I think I may try and find some ebony or visit some metal shops around town for the 125's...

 

When I see the Cocobolo color I'll start zeroing in on screen...cooper maybe, but the black looks good.....oh yea and KimChee yours are awesome looking by the way. I still like the red grills and metal piston a few pages back though....the headband fell off the 60's so its like meant to be....

 

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eclein- Oh right, you have the original 125s then. I forgot those were the standard cabling. I did see that when I bought mine and they had the older 125 there. Mine are 125i's and I do remember reading that they just started the 4 to 8 switch with the i series.
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I just hooked up my Grados to my ER-4PS 75 ohm adaptor, it really tightens up the bass, but I find it a bit too polite for my liking, I'm thinking of getting rid of it to an ER-4P owner.

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STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!

 I tried something I haven't seen yet with outstanding results...its not what you see its whats behind it...and its not the EVS thing...

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 I opened up the SR125's and did the following...

1) 7 holes

2) Dynamat on the driver button

3) Removed screen and button in one piece****

4) I cut some really thin foam I had lyin around (its like 1/32) to fit the inside dimension of the top

5) Foam first with the screen and button I took out in one piece behind the foam- button facing out toward camera

6) Closed it up with tape temporary and put bowls on.

7) Put on Radiohead KID A.....

8) Wet my pants!!!

 

You get the slam of the low end but no boom, no undefined thump its like the low end from my Ultrasones and the mids and hi's of the Grado sound. Its still technically open as the screen is there behind the foam so for whatever reason this

is pretty cool....It took Dynamat, and 7 holes to get them to sound like my modded 60's and this last thing was the icing. But hey I'm an old guy what do I know......LOL...check it out

 

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I'm wondering if something like a cheap home air filter (the flat low quality ones) would work in the same manner, or if it would allow enough airflow to keep it from the same effect.

The foam looks somewhat like cloth as it is. Is it solid?
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Its the foam I took off of some Sony headphones last week trying to turn them into something. Its about as thin as cardboard, and I think in conjunction with the screen and whatever percentage of air it lets in the combination is pretty cool. I just spent the last few hours trying to pick this idea apart, played like 40 different CD's types of music, etc..it incredible. I even stopped listening for 1/2 and took a walk to totally do a fresh listen. The cool part now that its slapped together is you can put dynamat or your choice of damping material

on the old screen mesh behind the foam. You can add a bunch, take a bunch off, try patterns and mold your sound and it will always look OK...with a wood shell, this will be pretty nice I think...very natural and dynamic....

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