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Does anyone of of person/place who would mod some Grados for a fee?

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Originally Posted by starbux48 View Post

Does anyone of of person/place who would mod some Grados for a fee?


If you were to buy cups from techheromods.com you send your headphones, select the cups you want and included in the price is the modification process.

 

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Still, too much text on this forum.  More Pictures!   Here we go ...

 

Here are the SR-225i Grados that I purchased from BigRock.  As some of you might remember, the gimbals were made from maple and had a clear coat on them. When I received the headphones, I found that the maple gimbals in their current configuration provided limited movement when compared to the standard Grados.  In my situation, I experienced some issues with the headphones angling correctly to fit my big head.  So, I set upon a goal of taking the maple gimbals and modifying them so that they'd provide more movement.  I took down the thickness about 1/4" and removed the chrome gimbal rods.  Needless to say, a few holes had to be patched up.  This meant that I'd no longer to keep the gimbals finished in clear maple.  I then re-drilled the rod holes so they had about a 10 degree angle (just like Grado) and then set them into place with some epoxy.  The gimbals were then finished in about 3 coats of black spray paint.  I then applied about 3 coats of satin polyurethane.  What you see in the pictures is the finished product.  They are comfortable - and sound ... oh, so beautiful!!

 

To be fair to BigRock, he sold these headphones for a very competitive price because the wooden gimbal feature was one of his conceptual tests.  I don't believe that option will be offered.  As I witnessed through my 4 hours or so of work, adding the wooden gimbal feature is quite a time-consuming effort for a cup producer.  Certainly, the payback for such labor is something that a customer may not opt for.  I also considered using the standard Grado plastic gimbals, but the diameter of the burl cups prevented the use of going that route.  Also, I consulted with BigRock and he suggested that I keep the cups as they are  as opposed to reducing the diameter where the gimbals would attach to use the Grado gimbals - due to the high possibility of sound changes.  So, modifying the current maple gimbals it was.

 

Here are the pictures:

 

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Edited by wje - 6/25/11 at 4:39am
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Very beautiful work, but...

I have seen many nice glasses, but often not taken into account the functioning of the handset and turn to suit our anatomy. Therefore, when then used uncomfortable. The position of fixing holes is vital, and the diameter of the piece. One millimeter can be catastrophic.

 

http://recopasgrado.blogspot.com/

Greetings from Spain.

 

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Edited by CABILLAS - 6/25/11 at 6:16am
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Hey cabillas,

I've been trying to contact you about the cups and all. Just so you know smily_headphones1.gif also, does anyone know if jmoney still makes te lambskin headbands?

Kojaku
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Originally Posted by Kojaku View Post

Hey cabillas,

I've been trying to contact you about the cups and all. Just so you know smily_headphones1.gif also, does anyone know if jmoney still makes te lambskin headbands?

Kojaku


Cabillas should be in touch with you.  Keep in mind, he's in Spain.  The time schedule is a bit different ... and they love to take siestas.  tongue.gif

 


I've been reading some posts about JMoney not selling cups anymore and also some others have indicated that JMoney might not be selling the headbands anymore, either.

 

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Originally Posted by wje View Post

Still, too much text on this forum.  More Pictures!   Here we go ...

 

Here are the SR-225i Grados that I purchased from BigRock.  As some of you might remember, the gimbals were made from maple and had a clear coat on them. When I received the headphones, I found that the maple gimbals in their current configuration provided limited movement when compared to the standard Grados.  In my situation, I experienced some issues with the headphones angling correctly to fit my big head.  So, I set upon a goal of taking the maple gimbals and modifying them so that they'd provide more movement.  I took down the thickness about 1/4" and removed the chrome gimbal rods.  Needless to say, a few holes had to be patched up.  This meant that I'd no longer to keep the gimbals finished in clear maple.  I then re-drilled the rod holes so they had about a 10 degree angle (just like Grado) and then set them into place with some epoxy.  The gimbals were then finished in about 3 coats of black spray paint.  I then applied about 3 coats of satin polyurethane.  What you see in the pictures is the finished product.  They are comfortable - and sound ... oh, so beautiful!!

 

To be fair to BigRock, he sold these headphones for a very competitive price because the wooden gimbal feature was one of his conceptual tests.  I don't believe that option will be offered.  As I witnessed through my 4 hours or so of work, adding the wooden gimbal feature is quite a time-consuming effort for a cup producer.  Certainly, the payback for such labor is something that a customer may not opt for.  I also considered using the standard Grado plastic gimbals, but the diameter of the burl cups prevented the use of going that route.  Also, I consulted with BigRock and he suggested that I keep the cups as they are  as opposed to reducing the diameter where the gimbals would attach to use the Grado gimbals - due to the high possibility of sound changes.  So, modifying the current maple gimbals it was.

 

 

 


Modding the mods lol

Nice pics and I particularly enjoyed the Cabillas cups.

 

How different is the sound between both Grados?

 

Here is a challenge (to which I'm not up to) : when are we going to see leather Grado pads on this thread?

 

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Hey everybody,

 

I've been lurking on this thread for a while, and actually read the first 1000 posts. It inspired me to finally purchase my first pair of Grados (SR80i, and on sale!) for the express purpose of modding. They just got here yesterday, and out of the box sound really good. I'm waiting on the Dynamat to arrive (hopefully Monday) before I open them up.

 

I was planning on trying to make my own wooden cups out of cocobolo, but the more I think about it the less likely it seems. I just don't have the tools, let alone the talent, to do it right. I looked at J Money, but it seems that they're no longer making cups. I even found an old thread for that suggested ALO audio - which turns out to be right here in Portland - only to find that they don't do it either.

 

I've seen people mention that some of you fine folks have been making cups - I recall hearing about "cabillas" and "marty". I was just wondering how to reach anyone about making some for me. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

Right now I'm just looking for the actual cup section - rather than the more complete piece for the liberated driver (that part still scares me).

 

I'd really appreciate any advice on the subject. Thanks a lot!

 

Oh, and feel free to PM me - though I'll try to check this thread in a timely manner as well.


http://www.head-fi.org/user/mlantinen = marty. He made my bloodwood cups. They are pretty nice. I recommend him.

 



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The same mods as any of the other Grado SR-60, SR-80, SR-125, SR-225, SR-325 (as well as the "i") models would apply: Open some of the rear holes on the driver to improve the bass.  Apply some Dynamat on the rear driver magnet to add mass and finally, if funds permit, move onto some wooden cups.  Those are pretty much the "staple" mods that will take  your headphones from good to great.

 

+1. Although I'd like to add on that you should pick up some different pads. I'm not sure which pads come with the ms1's but I love my bowls.
 

 



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Originally Posted by starbux48 View Post

Does anyone of of person/place who would mod some Grados for a fee?


 

I would be willing to do the modding for little more than the prices of shipping and materials. Do you know what exactly you are looking for? I cannot make the wooden cups, but I can refer someone to lathe them and I'd be willing to install them. I would recommend that you do the mods yourself to suit your own personal preference, but if you want to work out something with me modding a pair for you, I'd be willing. Send me a PM if you would like and we can maybe work something out. I'd recommend picking up a pair of 225i's and getting some cups from cabillas or marty. I really think that is the way to go. Otherwise a lower down pair with the same cups, replacing the pads with bowls and possibly a different cable (although, I saw no huge difference, the stock grado cables are all fairly nice). You would have to source the components, but I'd be willing to put them together, if that is the part which you wish to avoid doing. 

 

Same goes for anyone else that might be too scared to do the mods. So long as I don't get a swell of PM's, I won't take on more than I can chew. But, I can certainly help a few people if they want to trust my  hands to do the mods over theirs.

 

 

Happy modding, as always. I'll post some pics when I get the mspros



 

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Modding the mods lol

Nice pics and I particularly enjoyed the Cabillas cups.

 

How different is the sound between both Grados?

 

Here is a challenge (to which I'm not up to) : when are we going to see leather Grado pads on this thread?

 



 


Edited by chrislangley4253 - 6/25/11 at 12:41pm
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Because I now doubt that I will ever get my cups I decided to put on the custom cable I made. Hopefully I will work with a mechanical engineer friend of mine to produce my own shells soon.

 

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Edited by BossBorot - 6/25/11 at 12:50pm
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Hey guys, so I wanted to do a silver cable mod on my sr 125s and I just want to make sure I have the right parts.

 

I ordered one of these plugs from amazon Rean NYS231BG 3.5mm (I'm guessing it's the same as the neutrik one)

http://www.amazon.com/NYS231BG-3-5mm-Stereo-Plug-Black/dp/B0008JFHII/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1309030501&sr=8-6

 

I also found some "cheap" silver cable here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pure-Silver-9999-Stranded-Wire-29AWG-Teflon-Audio-Cable-/110536892795?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19bc83217b#ht_10894wt_905

 

Does the thickness of the wire matter much? Also, since my 125s have 8 wires in total, should I be getting 8 separate wires or just 4 each?

 

I'll worry about sheathing later.

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Thanks for the input on the Iroko.  I'm currently in a conversation with Cabillas regarding another set of cups.  The Iroko is lighter, right?  Or darker?

 

I thought it was pretty much noted that the 60, 80 and 125 used essentially the same driver from Grado.  Then, the 225 and 325 used the same driver.  Having tasted the 225 / 225i candy, I'm hooked.  Musically, I'm hearing instrument separation that is just out of this world.  I have some stock SR-60s that I pull out from time-to-time for reference and that separation just isn't quite there.  However, to answer your question - no, I haven't heard the SR-125i as you've asked.  I recommend the SR-225i because you can get them used for about the same price as a pair of SR-125i.  The SR-225i will provide you with the better bowl pads and a thicker cable.  That alone makes the leap much easier to decide.  

 

With that being said.  Would anyone consider having their SR-125i headphones upgraded with a set of Cabillas' cups?  If that's the case, I'd assemble the upgrades for no cost and provide my impressions - and comparisons to my SR-225 and SR-225i.  The only thing that I'd ask for is that the postage be covered.  My work would be timely - take no more than 3 days to update them and give my impressions before mailing them back to you.  Any takers?

 


The 125i is actually where that cable changes, not the 225i. I have the same cable you do. A 225i may have been better, but I didn't see any benefit to the 225 (didn't have an i when I bought mine) over the 125i I have.

And I plan on getting some of his iroko cups here at some point for my 125i. I want to do the work myself though. I wouldn't have a problem with letting others work on them, but I want to do it just for the satisfaction of completing it.
Edited by sml1226 - 6/25/11 at 1:36pm
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4 would be enough, unless you want to keep the same pattern. Honestly I dont see the point in changing to silver but silver cables do look awesome. you would need at least 4 and braid them or hold them into a nylon sleeve or such. as for the tips, I  buy mines in Markertek, good prices and they ship promptly.

 

btw that cable is 29 awg and the grado is 26 I believe? that same seller has a 26 agw in same silver.


Edited by JamesMcProgger - 6/25/11 at 1:34pm
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So does no one else other than jmoney make the headband? Would I be forced to make my own?

Kojaku
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Originally Posted by Kojaku View Post

So does no one else other than jmoney make the headband? Would I be forced to make my own?

Kojaku


I don't know of anyone else at this point that would do something like that - even as a one-off.  If you search Google for some Vinyl leather, you'll find places that sell a 36" x 54" piece for a bit lower than $20.  Some of the simulated leather looks pretty good - like fake ostrich leather, etc.  Find a used sewing machine on Craigslist and go to town.

 


 

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Originally Posted by sml1226 View Post

The 125i is actually where that cable changes, not the 225i. I have the same cable you do. A 225i may have been better, but I didn't see any benefit to the 225 (didn't have an i when I bought mine) over the 125i I have.
 

 

Thanks for the information.  I guess I didn't realize the SR-125i featured the thicker cable, too.  However, the SR-125i does have the "comfy" pads as stock and not the bowls.
 

 

 

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How different is the sound between both Grados?

 


Each one has their own uniqueness.  The burls have the SR-225i, while the sapeles have the SR-225 drivers.  The SR-225 drivers have a bit more "tingle" in the upper frequencies and the loin cloth is removed from those drivers.  The burls appear to hit on the bass slightly lower - but, those cups have more mass to them and they're heavier to wear, too.  However, I'd rate both mods a success.  I'm very pleased with how each one sounds.

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also the drivers on the 225 are binned to 0.05dB where as the drivers on the 125 are 0.1dB

 

If you are only going for drivers and something to mount them to the alessandro ms1 and the 225i represent the best cost to driver quality in my opinion depending on what you want.


Edited by BossBorot - 6/25/11 at 3:04pm
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