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post #4726 of 5003
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Originally Posted by chrislangley4253 View Post





another valid point. But, if that is all that is different in the drivers, I don't think they should be making claims they are different. That is just wrong in my opinion.


All that ever really varies in any open dynamic headphone driver (from any company) is the VC winding, the magnet size/type, the mylar thickness/flexibility, and the felt. Grado messes with mylar ("De-stressing"), felt, and accuracy of VC windings (we haven't seen evidence that they're any different though). The only blatantly obvious change is felt and damping.
post #4727 of 5003
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Originally Posted by Kojaku View Post

So does anyone know how sensitive the drivers are? I'm ordering Cabillas cups, but you need to remove your drivers and then desolder/solder them back to put them inhis cups. I'm a little concerned because I'm afraid of taking the drivers out and I've never soldered before...I don't wanna break my 225i's...


I was in the same boat as you not to long ago, in that I hadnt soldered anything before and taking a knife and hammer to my Grado's seemed like an unnatural act. Several contributors to this thread helped me with some soldering tips, and there are a bunch of tutorials on You Tube. It's really not a big deal. One caveat though there is probably more risk in damaging your driver with the soldering iron than the liberation process. The voice coil wire is attached to the other side of that pad your soldering the cable too, so there is a risk of getting it to hot and damaging the driver.
 

 

post #4728 of 5003
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Originally Posted by KneelJung View Post




I was in the same boat as you not to long ago, in that I hadnt soldered anything before and taking a knife and hammer to my Grado's seemed like an unnatural act. Several contributors to this thread helped me with some soldering tips, and there are a bunch of tutorials on You Tube. It's really not a big deal. One caveat though there is probably more risk in damaging your driver with the soldering iron than the liberation process. The voice coil wire is attached to the other side of that pad your soldering the cable too, so there is a risk of getting it to hot and damaging the driver.
 

 


That's when desoldering braid and a lower heat (but still enough to melt the solder there) iron comes in handy. The flux in the braid makes it melt better, and by the time the heat has reached it, the solder should be wicked from the pad and cable. Then you have a clean(ish) pad to go to with your new cable (or to reattach the old one). I'd say remove the solder just because heating solder on that pad without any flux is about as risky as you'll get.
post #4729 of 5003

Maybe Alessandro was nice to me when they realized I only live 3.5 hours from them and I'd drive all the way up there to pull a single driver from their grubby hands if they didn't comply.  basshead.gif

 

Actually, my only trip wouldn't be just to spin by Alessandro - but, it's basically right on the way to where my father-in-law is in a retirement home.  I'd drive about 45 minutes more from Alessandro to get to where my father-in-law is located.  I wouldn't make the trip just for the driver.  

post #4730 of 5003
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Originally Posted by Kojaku View Post

So does anyone know how sensitive the drivers are? I'm ordering Cabillas cups, but you need to remove your drivers and then desolder/solder them back to put them inhis cups. I'm a little concerned because I'm afraid of taking the drivers out and I've never soldered before...I don't wanna break my 225i's...


Yes, I'm in the same boat as you now. I've never soldered anything in my life, and am going to have to learn quickly for this little project. Luckily my dad is good with the soldering gun, so I won't be going totally blind. I'd be happy to share my experience with you whenever I get done (July 4th weekend, hopefully). 

post #4731 of 5003

Shells have no been spoken for by desertfox34. I will get them out to you as soon as possible.

 

Darren C

dgcrane

 

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Originally Posted by dgcrane View Post

I have a set of Bills first cocobolo type slipons with a crack on one side and a piece of the wood totally seperated. It could possibly be epoxied however.

 

If you would like them for the cost of shipping ($12.50) I will ship them out to you when our postal strike ends. They will come with silver mesh screens.

 

They may be able to be used as is, and look nice (other then the cracked piece by the hole for the gimbal)

 

Send me a PM if you want em.... I would prefer to mail em out to someone that would like some nice shells, but cant really afford it.

 

Darren



 

post #4732 of 5003
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Originally Posted by dgcrane View Post

Shells have no been spoken for by desertfox34. I will get them out to you as soon as possible.

 

Darren C

dgcrane

 



 



Again thanks for the offer. Good luck with the strike. Hopefully I'll get a chance to post some photos when I'm finished with them :)

post #4733 of 5003
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Originally Posted by dgcrane View Post

Shells have no been spoken for by desertfox34. I will get them out to you as soon as possible.

 

Darren C

dgcrane

 



 



Bravo Darren, bravo!

 

post #4734 of 5003

Pictures.  Time for Pictures !!!!  Here's my SR-225 Grados with the Cabillas Sapele cups on them.  I've re-worked the screen since my first picture was posted over a week ago.  I bought the modeling screen at the craft store, cut a precise round hole and painted them black before installing them. Here you go ...  (Scroll to the bottom of the pictures to see my additional comments and a mini-review.  A more more thorough review will be reserved for KneelJung's thread on wooden cup headphones.

 

 

Here's a side shot, showing the cups, the new screen and essentially the whole package:

 

sr225_cabillas1.jpg

 

 

 

A front view of the headphones to get an idea of how the somewhat "mushroom-style" cups appear when all set into place.

 

sr225_cabillas2.jpg

 

 

 

A side view (a little out of focus) but, still showing the installation of the new screen.  The screen is now flat - no more bulging like the previous aluminum screen that I used.

 

sr225_cabillas4.jpg

 

 

Impressions: I'm totally impressed with how these have turned out.  The drivers had to be liberated from the mini-cups that they were originally encased in.  They fit snugly in place in the Cabillas' cups without any adhesive.  If you ever need access to the drivers or chamber, you simply remove the ear pad, push down on one edge of the driver, allowing the other side to pop up so you can grasp it from the cup housing and set it aside (being careful not to tug too hard on the cable).  I love these headphones ... seriously!!!   I'm going to stay with two (actually) 3 pair of headphones and that's it.  It will be these, my burls (also photos and impressions will be forthcoming) and finally my Sennheiser HD555s that I use to go to sleep with.  That will be all.

 

Other People's Impressions: The last few days, I had the headphones into work.  There are some people who are into music and love audio.  These are the individuals that I was able to share the experience of these with.  The first guy is a DJ and from South America.  I put on Concha Buika (as played through my Walkman, LOD and FiiO E11 amplifier).  Since he's very fluent in Spanish, he could immediately connect to her music.  Her voice is throaty, her music is full of tasteful instruments and percussion.  I could see the emotion in his eyes.  After a few songs, he put the headphones down - totally impressed with the sound.  I did explain to him how these were audiophile headphones vs. the DJ headphones that he's used to.  He was well aware that these headphones are something that you put on at the end of a rough day to get yourself into "chill" mode.  He then wanted to plug his new, $200 DJ headphones into my FiiO E11 and we played the same songs over.  His DJ headphones made the poor song sound as thick as mud.  There was no bass boost applied at the amp level either.  At this point, I'm not sure if I've pulled him over to the audiophile world, or not - yet.  He does his DJ work on weekends to make extra money.  However, I'm sure at some point following our moments with the Grados, he did contemplate more than once about incorporating an audiophile headphone into his life at some point.

 

I then stopped by a 2nd guy who listens to a lot of hip-hop.  After one song, he put them down and said, "these sound damn fine".  He wants a pair - he wants me to buy him a pair for his birthday (yeah, right).  I have a sister with MS confined to an assisted living facility because she can no longer walk that will get my charity set of custom headphones - if I can determine her level of listening to music.  Then, he wanted to work on about 5 pair that he was convinced he could sell for $300 (each) at the barber shop that he hangs out at.  I explained to him that there have been many times in the past when I've taken a hobby and tried to turn it into something more - but, in the end, I was frustrated.  Because it then took on a competitive edge by trying to make sales - and then I no longer had my passion for my hobby.

 

Musical Impressions: I basically listen to anything that I can't hear on the regular radio.  Lots of blues, jazz, duets, etc.  These headphones handle the music I push through them with ease.  No sibelence, just clear vocals, clear instruments and percussion.  Each time I use them, they are such a treat to use.

 

Personal Recommendation: If one can - and, has the resources, I'd recommend using the Grado SR-225i / SR-225 drivers with these headphones.  To me, the SR-225 / 225i is the best bang for the buck driver from Grado.  With the lower level models, there can be some issues with clarity, instrument separation, etc.  However, spending a little bit more up front will probably leave you happier and you'll be less likely to kick yourself later.  Plus, if one checks the F/S section of this forum, you can locate a pair of used SR-225i headphones for about $60 more than a new pair of SR-80i headphones.  The SR-225i will provide you with the donut pads as well as a thicker audio cable.

 

Enjoy!

post #4735 of 5003
wje I think I still like the Iroko better, but those look great. After my phono preamp, my velours for my V6s, my bowls, more vinyl, and my impulse ideas have been completed I'll probably have to just order some from Cabillas.

The Grado love is wearing off of me right now... The problems with the mods here have put me off. I've had a taste of wooden shells and now I don't want to go back to the stock 125i (you recommend 225i, have you heard the 125i?) but I can't really move anywhere without more attempts at this hunk of jatoba sitting here, or more money to order some from another shell maker.
post #4736 of 5003

Hey everybody,

 

I've been lurking on this thread for a while, and actually read the first 1000 posts. It inspired me to finally purchase my first pair of Grados (SR80i, and on sale!) for the express purpose of modding. They just got here yesterday, and out of the box sound really good. I'm waiting on the Dynamat to arrive (hopefully Monday) before I open them up.

 

I was planning on trying to make my own wooden cups out of cocobolo, but the more I think about it the less likely it seems. I just don't have the tools, let alone the talent, to do it right. I looked at J Money, but it seems that they're no longer making cups. I even found an old thread for that suggested ALO audio - which turns out to be right here in Portland - only to find that they don't do it either.

 

I've seen people mention that some of you fine folks have been making cups - I recall hearing about "cabillas" and "marty". I was just wondering how to reach anyone about making some for me. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

Right now I'm just looking for the actual cup section - rather than the more complete piece for the liberated driver (that part still scares me).

 

I'd really appreciate any advice on the subject. Thanks a lot!

 

Oh, and feel free to PM me - though I'll try to check this thread in a timely manner as well.


Edited by gamersince1976 - 6/25/11 at 1:16am
post #4737 of 5003
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Originally Posted by Chris_Himself View Post

Cabillas, I don't know if you understand toilet humor, but I have a major erection right now.

 

Dammit I don't even want to ask how much those things cost, I had enough of a hard time doing my recable. I'd kill somebody for RS-1 cups to complete the transformation and say goodbye to my Grado upgradeitis.

 

Great job, thank you for what you're doing for the community!

 

Here is my recent SR-60 recable I've posted on other threads. I can make this cable to share with other people too if they're interested. 

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I´d be very interested in getting some cables done so I have it ready for installing in some Cabillas cups :)

 

-n

 

post #4738 of 5003

I hate to ask, but to anyone that owns Alessandro MS1-i's what mods would you suggest? 

Thanks,

Mark

post #4739 of 5003
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Originally Posted by marko93101 View Post

I hate to ask, but to anyone that owns Alessandro MS1-i's what mods would you suggest? 

Thanks,

Mark


The same mods as any of the other Grado SR-60, SR-80, SR-125, SR-225, SR-325 (as well as the "i") models would apply: Open some of the rear holes on the driver to improve the bass.  Apply some Dynamat on the rear driver magnet to add mass and finally, if funds permit, move onto some wooden cups.  Those are pretty much the "staple" mods that will take  your headphones from good to great.

 

post #4740 of 5003
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Originally Posted by sml1226 View Post

wje I think I still like the Iroko better, but those look great. After my phono preamp, my velours for my V6s, my bowls, more vinyl, and my impulse ideas have been completed I'll probably have to just order some from Cabillas.

The Grado love is wearing off of me right now... The problems with the mods here have put me off. I've had a taste of wooden shells and now I don't want to go back to the stock 125i (you recommend 225i, have you heard the 125i?) but I can't really move anywhere without more attempts at this hunk of jatoba sitting here, or more money to order some from another shell maker.


Thanks for the input on the Iroko.  I'm currently in a conversation with Cabillas regarding another set of cups.  The Iroko is lighter, right?  Or darker?

 

I thought it was pretty much noted that the 60, 80 and 125 used essentially the same driver from Grado.  Then, the 225 and 325 used the same driver.  Having tasted the 225 / 225i candy, I'm hooked.  Musically, I'm hearing instrument separation that is just out of this world.  I have some stock SR-60s that I pull out from time-to-time for reference and that separation just isn't quite there.  However, to answer your question - no, I haven't heard the SR-125i as you've asked.  I recommend the SR-225i because you can get them used for about the same price as a pair of SR-125i.  The SR-225i will provide you with the better bowl pads and a thicker cable.  That alone makes the leap much easier to decide.  

 

With that being said.  Would anyone consider having their SR-125i headphones upgraded with a set of Cabillas' cups?  If that's the case, I'd assemble the upgrades for no cost and provide my impressions - and comparisons to my SR-225 and SR-225i.  The only thing that I'd ask for is that the postage be covered.  My work would be timely - take no more than 3 days to update them and give my impressions before mailing them back to you.  Any takers?

 

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