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post #466 of 5003

WOW...this is amazing. I did the felt mod, punched 4 holes and they sound like a whole new can. I noticed it really helped on KFDM's bass heavy songs and the treble is just right now. I'm not going to be listening to my other headphones for while, I'm going through my entire library with these and so far I'm in awe. Only one thing I'm not happy with...I was in a rush to put them back together (so I could see what they sounded like) and used super glue to hold them together. I kinda pushed the cups down to far and now they don't pivot as much as they used to. They still fit good but is there any hope of getting them apart without destroying them?

post #467 of 5003

Try the spoon method but be very gentle! It's only plastic after all.

post #468 of 5003

Has anyone ever touched the back of the driver plate while music was playing? I'm just wondering how the sound is affected when you mechanically couple the back plate to something.

post #469 of 5003
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Originally Posted by rjmrg View Post

Bilavideo,

Just wanted to say thank you for this amazing thread. I have had a pair of Grado S60's for about 11 years now. While I have always enjoyed them, I felt like they were missing a little bit of bass, more so after I replaced the comfy pads a few years ago with the bowl pads. After reading through this thread, I took the plunge and began the improvement process. I used a hair dryer to separate the cups. The folks at Grado must have used extra glue on mine because it took about 5-6 minutes of heat and quite a bit of pulling to get them apart. Once done, I used a dime to trace circles on the "felt feet" I got at Home Deport. A dime seems to be the perfect size. One thing I did not see you mention that I did was dip a q-tip in alcohol and clean the back of the driver and plastic grill to make sure the felt adhered well. I vented 4 holes at 4, 6, 8, and 10 o'clock positions. I could not use 9 and 3 as 3 was blocked by the solder connections. Once all done I put the phones back together, plugged them into my ipod and wow was I surprised. I don't have the audio vocabulary to explain the difference in sound but boy do they sound great! I definitely hear more bass. Not "boomy" but definitely more pronounced. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you and to encourage any other folks that have thought about doing the mods but have been hesitant to try. Keep up the great work.


Thanks for posting that.  I'm blown away by the graciousness of that reply.  It lifts my heart to know that somebody out there is experiencing what I did.  I hope your headphones serve you well and for a long time to come.

post #470 of 5003
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Originally Posted by rjmrg View Post

Bilavideo,

Just wanted to say thank you for this amazing thread. I have had a pair of Grado S60's for about 11 years now. While I have always enjoyed them, I felt like they were missing a little bit of bass, more so after I replaced the comfy pads a few years ago with the bowl pads. After reading through this thread, I took the plunge and began the improvement process. I used a hair dryer to separate the cups. The folks at Grado must have used extra glue on mine because it took about 5-6 minutes of heat and quite a bit of pulling to get them apart. Once done, I used a dime to trace circles on the "felt feet" I got at Home Deport. A dime seems to be the perfect size. One thing I did not see you mention that I did was dip a q-tip in alcohol and clean the back of the driver and plastic grill to make sure the felt adhered well. I vented 4 holes at 4, 6, 8, and 10 o'clock positions. I could not use 9 and 3 as 3 was blocked by the solder connections. Once all done I put the phones back together, plugged them into my ipod and wow was I surprised. I don't have the audio vocabulary to explain the difference in sound but boy do they sound great! I definitely hear more bass. Not "boomy" but definitely more pronounced. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you and to encourage any other folks that have thought about doing the mods but have been hesitant to try. Keep up the great work.

 


Originally Posted by Megalomaniac View Post

WOW...this is amazing. I did the felt mod, punched 4 holes and they sound like a whole new can. I noticed it really helped on KFDM's bass heavy songs and the treble is just right now. I'm not going to be listening to my other headphones for while, I'm going through my entire library with these and so far I'm in awe. Only one thing I'm not happy with...I was in a rush to put them back together (so I could see what they sounded like) and used super glue to hold them together. I kinda pushed the cups down to far and now they don't pivot as much as they used to. They still fit good but is there any hope of getting them apart without destroying them?


Thanks to both of you for the words of encouragement.  It lifts my heart to know that others have had experiences similar to my own.  I really love the power of this mod.  Some have trashed it saying it makes the bass boomy, but that has not been my experience.  I think it actually allows the drivers to be deeper and to more completely use the air chambers - and I love it.

post #471 of 5003

I got them back apart....NEVER USING SUPER GLUE ON ANYTHING AGAIN. I did the spoon method and my 'phones look like they have been through hell. I broke the plastic outer rim on on of them, dropped them several times while I was doing it and broke a piece of the plastic on one of the cups. They look fine with the pads on but man... I completely destroyed them on the inside. They still sound like they did before I started to pry them back open....these things are pretty tough. cool.gif

post #472 of 5003

Hmm. I don't like the spoon method, but then again, I don't like the superglue method either. tongue_smile.gif

post #473 of 5003

I tried using acetone to dissolve the super glue... note to self, grado plastic is succeptible to acetone eek.gif

post #474 of 5003

You wouldn't happen to remember the inner & outer diameter for that first set of woodies you made (that still utilized the housing)?

 

I have a new-to-me pair of sr60's and I'm loving them...but I have a drillpress, and winter break...and this problem where I can't let things go as they are. So I think making a pair of woodies would be "fun".

post #475 of 5003
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

I tried using acetone to dissolve the super glue... note to self, grado plastic is succeptible to acetone eek.gif


That's a stumble forward.  Getting rid of the plastic is no big tragedy.

post #476 of 5003
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Originally Posted by Maverickmonk View Post

You wouldn't happen to remember the inner & outer diameter for that first set of woodies you made (that still utilized the housing)?

 

I have a new-to-me pair of sr60's and I'm loving them...but I have a drillpress, and winter break...and this problem where I can't let things go as they are. So I think making a pair of woodies would be "fun".


A 2" hole saw will give you a workable hole for the plastic inner, though you'll want to hot glue it into place.  The thinnest outer-housing diameter you can pull off from there is 2 1/4 but I don't recommend it unless your cuts are precise and you're working with a very durable wood.  Otherwise, it's all just a bit too fragile.  2 1/2 inches works nicely, if you want a thin cut.  If you'd like something thicker, 3" produces a very nice shell.

post #477 of 5003

Alright, many thanks! A red oak woody mod may be in my near future then.

post #478 of 5003

The perforation mod doesn't make the bass boomy with only 4 holes. I've noticed it increases both the quantity and the quality of the bass, and sounds like those of a bass guitar really come through. It's a quick and easy mod that's well worth the effort.

post #479 of 5003

I just went from 10 holes back to 4 (i used adhesive velcro, the loop side, to cover up the holes). I think its the perfect balance for me between lack of base and masked mids. I also dyed my senn 414 pads, but although they look stellar, I think I somehow mannaged to make the senn pads even softer! when I take the headphones off I have ear-imprints on the foam. I'm in the process of trying to make woodies, but my drillpress seems to have a slight wobble, which translates to terrible looking rings, haha. Loving the process, the trial&error, and all the pains and joys that go along with it though. Now, I do find the highs of the SR60 slightly, and I do mean slightly, fatiguing, just causing a little bit of discomfort in the temples, but oddly enough, I find the sound to be spot on, if not a little muted with the quarter modded senns. Is the next step removing the silk veil?

post #480 of 5003
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For a limited time, and as long as I have any extra shells to share, I'm willing to lend a pair of wooden shells to anyone who is experimenting, at least within the U.S.  This is on the honor system.  You can see how I made them and give some thought to how you might make yours.  You can use them to tweak the sound you're looking for.  You can provide me your feedback from actual usage.  The only thing is, when you're done, you have to send them back.  I'm not a business but I'm not a charity, either.  I just want to promote better sound, if I can do so without robbing my dinner table.  I'm fortunate enough to have some equipment - like a drill press, a belt sander, a band saw, a jigsaw, a dremel, a and a supply of unicorn tears - that others may not have.  I'm willing to share.  All I ask is that you not screw me over.  Once we figure out how to make the kinds of shells we like, we can start thinking about how to make our own custom-built drivers.  Who's to say that 40mm is the only diameter for a headphone driver? 


Edited by Bilavideo - 12/18/10 at 9:26am
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