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post #1 of 33
8/20/10 at 6:16pm
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Some time ago, Audiogon started hiding the asking price when an item was sold, by replacing it with SOLD.

 

This is frustrating for people trying to do research on the going price of an item. In doing research, I might google on "for sale DT880" and google will show me old audiogon pages as well as old posts on "for sale" forums. Most of the audiogon pages will have the price hidden.

 

They deliberately want to frustrate you. They want you to pay money to buy their blue book service.

 

Now, I've noticed people on head-fi doing the same thing. They will edit their post to replace the price with "SOLD." I don't know if they are doing this just to imitate Audiogon, but why? They are killing the research. What is the need for this? Why not just put SOLD at the top of the post and leave the price intact?

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post #2 of 33
8/20/10 at 6:39pm

Yeah, Forget about the research crap, I like to know what people paid for the ITEM....Probably a privacy thing like the heath care crap......They got everything (info) that they could possibly know already!!!  I don't get it......

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post #3 of 33
8/20/10 at 7:35pm

They do this so sellers can't be pigeonholed into a selling range. In other words, they can get as much as they can.

 

They've been doing it here for a long time. This issue comes up very often. It is shouted down by those that sell frequently.

 

I can see their point but you can always check out fleabay for some comps.

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post #4 of 33
8/20/10 at 7:40pm

Who the hell considers doing a search on the internet "research"??

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post #5 of 33
8/20/10 at 8:39pm
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

They do this so sellers can't be pigeonholed into a selling range. In other words, they can get as much as they can.

 

They've been doing it here for a long time. This issue comes up very often. It is shouted down by those that sell frequently.

 

I can see their point but you can always check out fleabay for some comps.

This. Also a lot of my sales at least have not been sold at the asking price. There's either been some kind of negotiating or sold outside of ConUS so sold at a different price.
 

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post #6 of 33
8/20/10 at 11:46pm

Have you searched and read up on the hundreds of previous thread on the subject in here? If not I recommend you do so, as there are extended discussions around it already.

 

But in short, here are some points:
* To make it clear that the item is sold.

* The advertised price may not be the selling price.

* Because the price may only valid for that item, and not to be used some years down the road.

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post #7 of 33
8/21/10 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post

Have you searched and read up on the hundreds of previous thread on the subject in here? If not I recommend you do so, as there are extended discussions around it already.

 

But in short, here are some points:
* To make it clear that the item is sold.

* The advertised price may not be the selling price.

* Because the price may only valid for that item, and not to be used some years down the road.



I didn't know it had been discussed. But I don't get the relevance of your points at all.

 

You can make it clear it is sold without deleting the price.

 

So what if it's not the selling price. It doesn't do any harm to leave it there. And in most cases, you can be sure the selling price is close to the asking price. So it still would be useful to see it.

 

Your last point is not clear to me, but doesn't seem to argue for any advantage in deleting the price.

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post #8 of 33
8/21/10 at 12:33am

It's a practice I have abhored for years at Head-fi.

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post #9 of 33
8/21/10 at 12:18pm

If it makes you feel any better I always update my threads with **SOLD** notice that does not replace price.  Yes it's kind of frustrating when trying to figure out what the price at :(  Even if it's not the price today at least we can still see the selling price back in 08, 05 or whatever.

 

That being said, why are the FS/FT forums so weak now?  What happened to the Head-fi I grew up with? I'm a sad panda.


Edited by Mr.Sneis - 8/21/10 at 12:20pm
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post #10 of 33
8/21/10 at 1:03pm

i always put SOLD next to the price

 

i may start putting a strikethrough on the price as well in the future (just in case the SOLD in the thread title and the SOLD next to the price don't make it clear enough)


Edited by necropimp - 8/21/10 at 1:05pm
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post #11 of 33
8/21/10 at 1:31pm

I don't think that the first asking prices are always accurate - I've paid less and more for certain items.

 

Also, it sometimes helps to nuke the price because I still get random PMs for things that were listed and sold a year or two ago but still had a number up.

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post #12 of 33
8/21/10 at 9:08pm



 

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

I don't think that the first asking prices are always accurate - I've paid less and more for certain items.

 

Also, it sometimes helps to nuke the price because I still get random PMs for things that were listed and sold a year or two ago but still had a number up.

Thank You Uncle Erik, Your answer makes the most sense and explains a reason I hadn't thought about........that being people Pm-ing you way after the Item has been sold or traded..........

 

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post #13 of 33
8/21/10 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by mulveling View Post

Who the hell considers doing a search on the internet "research"??


Someone researching the effects of typing something into a search bar and pressing enter?

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post #14 of 33
8/21/10 at 11:54pm
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

I don't think that the first asking prices are always accurate - I've paid less and more for certain items.

 

Also, it sometimes helps to nuke the price because I still get random PMs for things that were listed and sold a year or two ago but still had a number up.


As I see it, we all benefit from knowing the "going price" of something. As a seller, I benefit from knowing how much to ask for something---and adjust it based on how long I want to wait for a sale. As a buyer, I benefit from knowing whether a particular price is good.

 

Audiogon knows this! That is why they deliberately obfuscate the price! They are trying to screw the community. But now we are doing it to ourselves!

 

Your reasons here just don't matter much. Knowing the trend of first asking prices is useful. No one said you have to know exact prices to get useful information. And if you put "SOLD" inserted into your post, in bold and red, in several places including next to the price, I think you have done your best to stop future PMs.

 

Do you realize that Audiogon charges $20/month for information that we can (or could if people wouldn't delete their prices) get for free via google?

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post #15 of 33
8/22/10 at 6:37am

it's mostly because once a deal is done, it's noone else's business(IRS, etc) and some ppl would rather not be reminded that they got coned into paying $500 for a cable or $1500 for a pimped DT770/Pro :p


Edited by leeperry - 8/22/10 at 10:48am
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