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post #556 of 607

Guys, just check their homepage before asking such questions. They're dropping the ess for the wolfson. It seems this ess wasn't so special, or maybe it was, but just in the detaill department. I have to say my nfb-3 sounds ridicolously well. It also makes you hear the tiniest detail, and room reverberation, but without being harsh.

post #557 of 607

Kingwa said he thought they may update the es9018 in the future, so that is another possible reason not to stock up on them.

post #558 of 607

Well there are plenty of good Dac chips on the market and some great ones too.  None of the great ones are cheap.  A great design can make a good Dac chip sound great vise versa for a great Dac chip.  Needless to say Kingwa is a great designer and seems to like a challenge.  He is also receptive to the market and customers, so factor all this in and what do you get???  Who knows....tongue_smile.gif

post #559 of 607

I wouldn´t be suprised if we´ll see a Sabre32 DAC in the future, but I would guess he is waiting for the next (fixed) version. Right now the Wolfson and PCM1704UK to me seem like a safer choice to bank on. As posted here, Kingwa has ordered a very large shipment of PCM1704UK´s, so I think it´s obvious he knows where the heart his business lies. It´s his unique trademark product - the DAC-19/REF7/8 aren´t going anywhere :) 

 

Personally I´m also interested in dual Wolfsons though, the sound signature from what I´ve read is really a nice compromise between modern and "musical" playback. In fact I´ve just sent a mail asking for an NFB-12. The price is just crazy good to miss.

post #560 of 607
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I wouldn´t be suprised if we´ll see a Sabre32 DAC in the future, but I would guess he is waiting for the next (fixed) version. Right now the Wolfson and PCM1704UK to me seem like a safer choice to bank on. As posted here, Kingwa has ordered a very large shipment of PCM1704UK´s, so I think it´s obvious he knows where the heart his business lies. It´s his unique trademark product - the DAC-19/REF7/8 aren´t going anywhere :) 

 

Personally I´m also interested in dual Wolfsons though, the sound signature from what I´ve read is really a nice compromise between modern and "musical" playback. In fact I´ve just sent a mail asking for an NFB-12. The price is just crazy good to miss.


So what would you do IF the NFB-12 sounds better than your Ref 7  ?????

 

Careful....I ended up selling my Lavry DA10 after I purchased a $200 Dac.

 

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post #561 of 607

The REF7 is primarily for my studio monitors that accept XLR signal... So I don´t have to worry about that :P But in general yeah, you can get some seriously good sound quality for under 300 dollars these days (from Asia).

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The REF7 is primarily for my studio monitors that accept XLR signal... So I don´t have to worry about that :P But in general yeah, you can get some seriously good sound quality for under 300 dollars these days (from Asia).



Yes it does appear that Asia is locking down the Dac department tube gear too.  I had some extra tubes laying around and decided to buy a inexpensive tube Dac to use them in....the Maverick D1, I must say its pretty satisfying.

post #563 of 607

There's no shame on buying a cheap Asian DAC if it sounds better than a occidental expensive one, that's even more pleasant to get good stuff for cheap.

post #564 of 607

I'm not knocking GD but I steered away from them mainly because they were making me dizzy with all their product changes(more Ritalin please). The 9018 chip may have its quirks and may even be a beta version of something better to come but when I see a company like Oppo choosing it for their top of the line "audiophile" BDP-95 I feel a bit more reassured.

I happen to own an EE Minimax which also uses the 9018 chip and while it may also have its quirks I'm thoroughly satisfied with the sound that comes out of it. To me it's as good a balance of detailed vs musical as I could hope for in that price range.


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post #565 of 607

You replaced the DA-10 with the D1?
 

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Originally Posted by vrln View Post

The REF7 is primarily for my studio monitors that accept XLR signal... So I don´t have to worry about that :P But in general yeah, you can get some seriously good sound quality for under 300 dollars these days (from Asia).



Yes it does appear that Asia is locking down the Dac department tube gear too.  I had some extra tubes laying around and decided to buy a inexpensive tube Dac to use them in....the Maverick D1, I must say its pretty satisfying.

post #566 of 607

Is setting the Sabre32 DPLL bandwidth to the "best" setting the solution for the I2S problem? http://hifiduino.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/sabre32-dac-i2s-further-experiments/

 

Not sure if Kingwa has already tried the register setting. 

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You replaced the DA-10 with the D1?
 

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Originally Posted by vrln View Post

The REF7 is primarily for my studio monitors that accept XLR signal... So I don´t have to worry about that :P But in general yeah, you can get some seriously good sound quality for under 300 dollars these days (from Asia).



Yes it does appear that Asia is locking down the Dac department tube gear too.  I had some extra tubes laying around and decided to buy a inexpensive tube Dac to use them in....the Maverick D1, I must say its pretty satisfying.


 


X2 lolwut? I have a D1 and it's okay, but surely it can't be better than the famous DA10? Purely speculation of course, I've never heard the Lavry before.

post #568 of 607
Thread Starter 

I must say I'm a little relieved to see a large order has been placed for the 1704uk...and it's a little disconcerting to read of the ESS issue...hopefully the next spin of the 9018 will have the issue ironed out (for those that want a 9018 based DAC).

 

I haven't been around much of late and I'm still waiting on back ordered parts (sigh ..2.5 months and counting for the Mundorf caps).

 

Peete.

post #569 of 607

Latest fr Audio Website News:

 

  "23th Jan.  We got a lot emails from customers and agents request us continue the ES9018 based DACs . We plan to continue the NFB-7 , NFB-1ES and NFB-10ES(non-USB)  at 15th Feb.   Do we correct ? Welcome send email to me shares your points.  Thanks. "

post #570 of 607

I think it´s awesome they are replying to customer demand, and asking the general population for their views. Isn´t very common, reminding us that we are dealing with a small and friendly boutique manufacturer :)  Personally I´d like to keep the option open of being of to buy an NFB-7. Even though I´m a real big fan of my REF7, I´m definately going to get one of the newer DAC´s as my next one. It´ll most likely be the NFB-8 or 7... Which one, no idea yet!

 

My vote goes for continuing the Sabre32 line.

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