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post #2536 of 2790
Ok, look at the inside surface of the lid as you turn the knob so that the tabs are retracted.

Then, being careful not to turn the knob, position the lid where it belongs and press hard enough to make it lie flush with the back of the amp - overcoming the pressure of the spring clips at the other end of the battery.

When you've got the lid sitting flush, turn the knob to extend the tabs and smile!

By the way, the jumper inside is not for gain. I recommend you put it back where you found it. That jumper adjusts between high and low current draw. If you want the battery to last longer at the expense of sound quality, select the Low setting. Otherwise, leave it on High.

Gain is controlled by the externally accessed switch that's under the volume knob. Go to High gain only if Low gain isn't loud enough with the volume turned all the way up. Excessively high gain can lead to audible hiss with more efficient headphones or IEMs. The blackest blacks are had with the lowest acceptable gain setting - true for nearly all amps.

:-)

Mike
Edited by zilch0md - 8/30/13 at 8:44pm
post #2537 of 2790

Thank you, that was very helpful, how did I missed that gain switch, I got to read the pdf product menu more carefully. 

post #2538 of 2790

L3000.gif  You're welcome!

post #2539 of 2790

wow the gain totally dominates T5p, I can only imagine how it will sound with a nice pair of 15 VDC regulate PSU. Anyone tried linear PSU with theses? Time to save up for a proper corda desktop amp.

 

Here is what I hope to see in future revision of this amp:

  1. Dual 9 volt PSU running in either series or parrallel. Series for long operation time and parrell for 18 volt of power.
  2. Larger case, something to match the ipod touch or ipod classic better. The larger size can perhaps give room for inclusion of charging circuit. 

 

What would be amazing if Dr Meier makes a class A amp (portable would be great but if not who cares right?). Sign me up on that list right away.

 

It is time for new product Dr Meier :D

post #2540 of 2790
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

Passed the 300 mark today, paired it with the new pocket rocket quickstep. Pairing is great, makes me thing if it sounds this good with opamp based amp how good will it sound with A class amps? But than again why ruin the magic?

 

@rasmushorn:  Can you post some picture of your AHA-120 against some known devices if you ever get the chance, I want to know how large it is, cheers. 

 

Here are two quick cell-phone shots of the Quickstep on top of the Just Audio AHA-120 winged by the ODAC and original CLAS. As you can see the Just Audio is a BRICK compared to the Quickstep. Battery time for the Quickstep and AHA-120 is about the same. I get somewhere between 15-20 hours on a charge. But for portable purposes I always bring the Quickstep with me in my bag. It drives my portable IEMs, Tzar350 and ER-4S equally well. I only bring the AHA-120 with me at very special occasions but mostly use it at home. Both amplifiers sound great with the T5p but the AHA-120 adds some warmth and punch to the bass in T5p where the Quickstep stays completely neutral and just plays the music as it sounds on the recording. The highs on the Quickstep are more transparent and airy with higher resolution. In the midrange the AHA-120 is more liquid and velvety but the quickstep does not sound grainy just clean and crisp. If you enjoy the Quickstep already I would say just stay with it and enjoy it. It is not night and day difference between the two but a little different flavor. 

 

 

post #2541 of 2790
Nice.. The clas -db sounds tight and punchy with the quickstep too.
post #2542 of 2790
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Originally Posted by rasmushorn View Post

 

Here are two quick cell-phone shots of the Quickstep on top of the Just Audio AHA-120 winged by the ODAC and original CLAS. As you can see the Just Audio is a BRICK compared to the Quickstep. Battery time for the Quickstep and AHA-120 is about the same. I get somewhere between 15-20 hours on a charge. But for portable purposes I always bring the Quickstep with me in my bag. It drives my portable IEMs, Tzar350 and ER-4S equally well. I only bring the AHA-120 with me at very special occasions but mostly use it at home. Both amplifiers sound great with the T5p but the AHA-120 adds some warmth and punch to the bass in T5p where the Quickstep stays completely neutral and just plays the music as it sounds on the recording. The highs on the Quickstep are more transparent and airy with higher resolution. In the midrange the AHA-120 is more liquid and velvety but the quickstep does not sound grainy just clean and crisp. If you enjoy the Quickstep already I would say just stay with it and enjoy it. It is not night and day difference between the two but a little different flavor. 

 

 

 Can you compare and describe sounds character of ODAC and CLAS. I'm down into these two for size matter. I was thinking of HP P1 but its too big. Thank you. I have followed your replies before I made my decision to purchased my T5p. I really like this can. Appreciates!

post #2543 of 2790
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Originally Posted by maii View Post

 Can you compare and describe sounds character of ODAC and CLAS. I'm down into these two for size matter. I was thinking of HP P1 but its too big. Thank you. I have followed your replies before I made my decision to purchased my T5p. I really like this can. Appreciates!

Hi maii! I am happy to hear that my sporadic writings here helps someone to make a purchase decision once in a while happy_face1.gif

 

That is a difficult comparison because the ODAC connects to my laptop and the CLAS to my iPhone. But I have tried comparing a few tracks using either:

 

MacBook --> ODAC--> Quickstep(15V PSU) -->T5p

or

iPhone 5 -> CLAS --> Quickstep(15V PSU) --> T5p

 

Playing the same track on Spotify (320kbps) the ODAC sounds more controlled in the treble and sounds more neutral overall. The bass in the CLAS is more forward than the ODAC. Some might think the ODAC is boring in comparison but it depends on what music and genre I am listening to. There is more resolution to the sound with the ODAC and more space around the instruments. The CLAS adds a bit more weight and punch but the ODAC sounds more real. So with the T5p i think I like the ODAC+Quickstep better than CLAS+Quickstep but when I use my TZAR350 the ODAC+Quickstep get a little bit too analytic and too harsh in the treble. Both sets are enjoyable so you decision might depend on whether you are going to use the ODAC / CLAS with your iPhone and / or your laptop? My CLAS is the original one and it does not work with my MacBook like the new CLAS -dB. Here I will have to use my ODAC. The good thing is that the ODAC is so small and does not need power supply or batteries. The original CLAS does not have a long battery life - what is it, around 10-15 hours at best? So here the ODAC is much better if use with your laptop is where you will use it. If you take price into the question and you can live with only using it with your computer then there is no doubt. The ODAC beats the CLAS in every aspect. Hope this can be useful to you.

 

Sorry for posting this in the T5p thread but at least there is a T5p in the chain. Also I think it will be VERY expensive to find a rig made for driving the T5p that sounds better than the ODAC--> Quickstep(15V PSU) -->T5p for portable use. 

post #2544 of 2790
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Originally Posted by rasmushorn View Post
 

Hi maii! I am happy to hear that my sporadic writings here helps someone to make a purchase decision once in a while happy_face1.gif

 

That is a difficult comparison because the ODAC connects to my laptop and the CLAS to my iPhone. But I have tried comparing a few tracks using either:

 

MacBook --> ODAC--> Quickstep(15V PSU) -->T5p

or

iPhone 5 -> CLAS --> Quickstep(15V PSU) --> T5p

 

Playing the same track on Spotify (320kbps) the ODAC sounds more controlled in the treble and sounds more neutral overall. The bass in the CLAS is more forward than the ODAC. Some might think the ODAC is boring in comparison but it depends on what music and genre I am listening to. There is more resolution to the sound with the ODAC and more space around the instruments. The CLAS adds a bit more weight and punch but the ODAC sounds more real. So with the T5p i think I like the ODAC+Quickstep better than CLAS+Quickstep but when I use my TZAR350 the ODAC+Quickstep get a little bit too analytic and too harsh in the treble. Both sets are enjoyable so you decision might depend on whether you are going to use the ODAC / CLAS with your iPhone and / or your laptop? My CLAS is the original one and it does not work with my MacBook like the new CLAS -dB. Here I will have to use my ODAC. The good thing is that the ODAC is so small and does not need power supply or batteries. The original CLAS does not have a long battery life - what is it, around 10-15 hours at best? So here the ODAC is much better if use with your laptop is where you will use it. If you take price into the question and you can live with only using it with your computer then there is no doubt. The ODAC beats the CLAS in every aspect. Hope this can be useful to you.

 

Sorry for posting this in the T5p thread but at least there is a T5p in the chain. Also I think it will be VERY expensive to find a rig made for driving the T5p that sounds better than the ODAC--> Quickstep(15V PSU) -->T5p for portable use. 

 

Much appreciates Rusmushorn and also apologize for hijacking this Quick step thread! I have just purchased CLAS today. It gives so so sweet sound quality with my Master female audiophile

 

(CD ripped to AIFF). I compared side by side with My

 

Yamaha CD 1000>>RCA to Mini jack>>Headstage arrow 4G>>T5p

 

Ipod classic>>CLAS>>Headstage arrow 4G>>T5p

 

It can't beat Yamaha at all but not that far. Yamaha gave me dark quite full of pleasure and depth into the music. CLAS gave me real sweet clarify and hamonize. I thought it was two different character from

 

two different DAC and Yamaha reproduced better sound quality deal to there sophisticate hard wired and if I am not wrong it's two chanel separate DAC rigth and left but to be hornest. CLAS did a great

 

job.

 

My original idea was to choose between. Samsung Galaxy S3 (use as Music player only,internal 32 gb,16 32 64 gb MCSD add option)it can play FLAC>>ODAC>>Headstage arrow>>T5p

 

or Ipod>>CLAS>>Headstage arrow 4G>>T5p

 

It seems to be the Samsung set will be better reproduce better sound quality followed by your openion. I will buy ODAC and try this two set. I like headstage arrow 4G but I guest fully discrete calss A amp

 

will beat it referred to the quickstep. I could hear the different between my BUrson 160 and headstage when I connect them with my two cans HD800 and T5p.

 

I never had any experience of of quickstep but for burson amp paired with Yamaha CD 1000 it's super fantastic altogether music reproduction. It's dark smooth tube like but still have puchy power as solid

 

state. Can you describe the sound character of Quickstep. I heard it's close to Meier concerto I was about to be chosen between Burson 160 and Meier Concerto and I chose Burson. The concerto

 

 was for me too clean and Burson is a tad dark and warm. Can you describe more about quickstep sound character I will probably change to Class A Amp soon(I tried to keep the units small but if it's

 

worth I could handle the brick) Thank you Rasmushorn for the T5p. I could not be happier with this can. 


Edited by maii - 9/4/13 at 7:22am
post #2545 of 2790

I received my Quickstep & with the Hifiman 272  its simply a match made in heaven.......

post #2546 of 2790
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Originally Posted by maii View Post

....I heard it's close to Meier concerto I was about to be chosen between Burson 160 and Meier Concerto and I chose Burson. The concerto was for me too clean and Burson is a tad dark and warm. Can you describe more about quickstep sound character I will probably change to Class A Amp soon(I tried to keep the units small but if it's worth I could handle the brick) Thank you Rasmushorn for the T5p. I could not be happier with this can. 

Maybe other people in this thread can help but to me if you ask me what the sound character of the Quickstep is? I would say that is almost does not have any character. That may sound negative?!? But it certainly is not meant that way. The good thing is that it does not add any bright or dark signature at all. It simply just plays the music with a high resolution from the bass to treble. It will not bring either bass or midrange more forward or draw it backwards. It sounds very neutral. Also it has such a clean and airy sound - no grain or dryness in the sound, like the Ray Samuels (ie. P-51 Mustang) tends to have. Also the Quickstep is even more neutral than the older Meier amplifiers like Move and 2Move. They added a bit more bass impact.

 

I never thought the T5p was a bright headphone so to my ears it just makes a great sounding and very portable combo with the Quickstep. One of the best things in the Quickstep is the volume potentiometer. There is no imbalance at all and it moves so smoothly that it gives a great feel all the way. 

 

So if you are looking for an amplifier with a lot of character or if you are looking for an amplifier that can add something to our headphones the Quickstep will only make your headphones better at what they are good at not change them into something else. I hope it makes sense? normal_smile%20.gif

post #2547 of 2790
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Originally Posted by rasmushorn View Post

Maybe other people in this thread can help but to me if you ask me what the sound character of the Quickstep is? I would say that is almost does not have any character. That may sound negative?!? But it certainly is not meant that way. The good thing is that it does not add any bright or dark signature at all. It simply just plays the music with a high resolution from the bass to treble. It will not bring either bass or midrange more forward or draw it backwards. It sounds very neutral. Also it has such a clean and airy sound - no grain or dryness in the sound, like the Ray Samuels (ie. P-51 Mustang) tends to have. Also the Quickstep is even more neutral than the older Meier amplifiers like Move and 2Move. They added a bit more bass impact.

I never thought the T5p was a bright headphone so to my ears it just makes a great sounding and very portable combo with the Quickstep. One of the best things in the Quickstep is the volume potentiometer. There is no imbalance at all and it moves so smoothly that it gives a great feel all the way. 

So if you are looking for an amplifier with a lot of character or if you are looking for an amplifier that can add something to our headphones the Quickstep will only make your headphones better at what they are good at not change them into something else. I hope it makes sense? normal_smile%20.gif

I'd add that the bass is excellent in that it goes very deep and has good impact and tightness. Plus the dynamics are excellent too. Instrument seperation is fairly good as well.
post #2548 of 2790

The way this amps achieves such good channel balance is that the lowest volume setting that channel imbalance will not occur is set as the lowest possible setting this amp will have. That can be a negative for those with very sensitive CIEM but for most it is just fine as I believe with the most sensitive CEIM the lowest setting will not be loud in any way.

 

My only beef with volume changing is that I hear noises when I use the volume knob. While it is not a big deal coming from 627x or O2 I am not quiet used to it. 

 

All and all this quiet a pocket rocket. It provides great performance for its size. And ofcourse like my F111 this amp required some gear experience as you will not appreciate what it is offering to you without the buyer experimenting with much more costly amp that do not offer what quickstep has to offer in terms of its neutrality and clarity. 

 

Many might associate the clarity of quickstep with brightness that is because this amp as rightly said has no obvious coloration of its own, it is design to be an amp, a thing that will give you the sound of whatever it is plugged into, this what an amp should do and this what exactly quickstep does, nothing more or less. 


Edited by audionewbi - 9/3/13 at 1:56am
post #2549 of 2790

+1 to all of the recent posts, above! 

post #2550 of 2790

Just a technical note:

 

The QUICKSTEP (as well as the STEPDANCE models) do use a digital volume control. Sound level is changed in discrete steps by switching resistors. That's the reason that no channel imbalances do occur.

 

A potentiometer is used but only to set the amplification level.

 

In between changes of volume level  the amplification is reduced for a few milliseconds. This causes small background clicks, especially at higher volume levels. It's part of the system and can not be prevented.

 

Cheers

 

Jan

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