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post #136 of 2750

Apple DAP+Solo+DAC+AMP-->iem

 

I really dont see this formula is portable anymore.

 

Even if we can use a better DAC to squeeze every piece of detail out of the source but doesn't mean the iem have such performance to deliver. IMHO.

 

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Originally Posted by Jalo View Post









I know what you mean, but for $600.00, you are getting line perfect digital signal out of the Ipod/iphone/ipad products with the option of connecting to both Dac and/or Amp. I stil think it's worth the price in pursuit of the best SQ from the Apple platform. God only knows when we spend much more than that for less SQ return. For instance, good LOD or hp recable can easily cost you almost that much and to some people they cannot even hear the difference.



Yes, it would be nicer if the Solo can be a little bit thinner. But it is definitely in the portable domain. It is not that much difference from people that use the Imod/Vcap/amp combo, Hifiman801/amp combo, Ipod/DB1/PB1 combo, and/or any DAP/DAC/amp combo especially w/ the stepdance (it's not that small). But for the sound it produces, I thought it is a worthwhile tradeup. Remember we are talking about bringing serious desktop level sound into portable realm. If I really want to go after size and weight, it will be Ipod nano and Pico slim and you'll be done. But when you are sitting in an airplane across the continent or worst yet across the ocean with 14- to 18 hours while watching movies, concert on the ipad or listening to your favorite ipod classic, it will be a shame if all the while there is a running thought in the back of your mind that tells you it could be better, it could be better, it could be better... and then that $600.00 doesn't seem so bad after a few thousand hours of enjoyment. As for those who just want to use a portable setup for walking around, at the gym etc, these are not critical listening time anyway, so a nano/pico slim will do the job.
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Originally Posted by ztsen View Post

Apple DAP+Solo+DAC+AMP-->iem

 

I really dont see this formula is portable anymore.

 

Even if we can use a better DAC to squeeze every piece of detail out of the source but doesn't mean the iem have such performance to deliver. IMHO.

 


 


If you go to the Cypher Labs site, there is a picture of Apple DAP+SOLO+RX Amp+IEM/HP.

post #138 of 2750

About to bite the bullet and get this amp :S

 

Edit: Bought and shipped :)

 

Will be testing the stepdance out with AKG702s and Yuin PK1s

 

Will use the new ipod touch as source when i get that.


Edited by yeemanz - 9/7/10 at 2:44am
post #139 of 2750
Quote:
Originally Posted by ztsen View Post

Apple DAP+Solo+DAC+AMP-->iem

 

I really dont see this formula is portable anymore.

 

Even if we can use a better DAC to squeeze every piece of detail out of the source but doesn't mean the iem have such performance to deliver. IMHO.

 


Top of the line customs are pretty darn good!  I have the EM3 Pro, which competes with the T1 and LCD-2!  And I am still amazed at how great the Stepdance sounds with lesser dynamic IEMs...it ups the level of detail.

 

I might want to get one just so I don't have to rely on my dinosaur of an iPod.  The 160GB classic would be every bit as good (pun intended) as any other iPod!  And the 128GB Touch might be an option also...

post #140 of 2750

Anyone care to chime in on the Stepdance vs. DACport?  I know the DAC complicates the comparison but still.

post #141 of 2750
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post




Top of the line customs are pretty darn good!  I have the EM3 Pro, which competes with the T1 and LCD-2!  And I am still amazed at how great the Stepdance sounds with lesser dynamic IEMs...it ups the level of detail.

 

I might want to get one just so I don't have to rely on my dinosaur of an iPod.  The 160GB classic would be every bit as good (pun intended) as any other iPod!  And the 128GB Touch might be an option also...


FWIW the scroll wheel on the Classic was not as consistent and responsive as what I enjoyed on my 5.5G. I read where some others had the same experience. It wasn't a big problem but noticeable.

 

Actually I am seriously interested in your film cap 240GB DIYMod 5.5G. I have a 30GB 5.5G sitting around unused.

 

There is not yet a 128GB Touch. That was a big disappointment in the recent announcements; no memory increases on any iPod.
 

post #142 of 2750
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FWIW the scroll wheel on the Classic was not as consistent and responsive as what I enjoyed on my 5.5G. I read where some others had the same experience. It wasn't a big problem but noticeable.

 

Actually I am seriously interested in your film cap 240GB DIYMod 5.5G. I have a 30GB 5.5G sitting around unused.

 

There is not yet a 128GB Touch. That was a big disappointment in the recent announcements; no memory increases on any iPod.
 


tbh, I wasn't really expecting a 128gb touch when you consider ipad is still stuck at 64gb...

I'm still not optimistic of seeing one next year either. most likely will see ipad go up in storage. hope I am wrong...

 

 

post #143 of 2750
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Originally Posted by cooperpwc View Post

FWIW the scroll wheel on the Classic was not as consistent and responsive as what I enjoyed on my 5.5G. I read where some others had the same experience. It wasn't a big problem but noticeable.

 

Actually I am seriously interested in your film cap 240GB DIYMod 5.5G. I have a 30GB 5.5G sitting around unused.

 

There is not yet a 128GB Touch. That was a big disappointment in the recent announcements; no memory increases on any iPod.


The 30GB logic board, back of the case, and battery all would need to be replaced to go with a 240GB HD.  You can pick up an 80GB for $100, or the parts for a little more than half that (and wait for them to be sent from China).  And I guess we may have to wait a year or so for the 128GB Touch.

 

Back to the Stepdance...

- Any additional battery experience?

- What headphones are you using with the Stepdance?

- What wall power, and where did you get it?

- What is your source?

 

My answers to the above:

- Not much experience, still waiting for my batteries to be delivered.  The 200mAh battery I have is doing OK.

- Mostly the EM3 Pro, but also SM3 and various others such as the FX24, NE-7, M9, etc.  The LCD-2 a little.

- Still looking for wall power.  I actually found one I could get, but haven't pulled the trigger.  My current one (12V, 1.25A regulated) came from a scanner.

- Mostly my DIY iPod, but have used the S:flo2 after upgrading to 2.3 firmware (thanks Anaxilus) more than I have ever used it just to hear it (it is for sale), and my Fuze for a little bit via LOD.

post #144 of 2750
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Originally Posted by ztsen View Post

Apple DAP+Solo+DAC+AMP-->iem

I really dont see this formula is portable anymore.

Even if we can use a better DAC to squeeze every piece of detail out of the source but doesn't mean the iem have such performance to deliver. IMHO.



First of all, the top of the line iems like the JH13/JH16/UE18 etc are no jokes at all. They compete and compare very well with many fullsize top headphones. Second, the Stepdance and along with some of the new offerings are definitely capable of driving many fullsize headphone to their potential. So we are not limiting this portable setup to iems. This is literally taking a desktop sq into the portable realm. You are right though if by portable you mean throwing it into your pocket and go out for a walk etc. Like I said, there are smaller setup that can satisfy those noncritical listening time.
post #145 of 2750
Thread Starter 

Once everything is back, I will mostly be using the Stepdance with my iPhone 3GS and ES5s. The Stepdance also does quite a nice job with the DT880/600s - better than I thought possible.

 

There is a store in the Tak Fat shopping centre in Mongkok Hong Kong that specialises in power supples. They have a huge selection. Next time I visit HK, I will take my Stepdance. I am quite sure that I can get a good regulated supply with the right cable installed. (I don't really like those little changeable tips). That may be in the next month or so and I will report back on what I find.

 

Until then, I am using disposable Nanfu (南孚) brand alkalines that cost about $1.25 here and which I find to be quite good. I seem to get well over 10 hours - perhaps as much as 15 - in high current mode.


Edited by cooperpwc - 9/7/10 at 12:52am
post #146 of 2750

Anyone have impression for stepdance with um3x or TF10?  or more iem impressions are really welcome.

 

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My point of view, still rather get a desktop amp for full size can instead of using a portable amp that trying hard to work like desktop amp.

But yes if for people who always move around for light gear to bring along yet not portable on the road idea.
 

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Originally Posted by Jalo View Post

 
First of all, the top of the line iems like the JH13/JH16/UE18 etc are no jokes at all. They compete and compare very well with many fullsize top headphones. Second, the Stepdance and along with some of the new offerings are definitely capable of driving many fullsize headphone to their potential. So we are not limiting this portable setup to iems. This is literally taking a desktop sq into the portable realm. You are right though if by portable you mean throwing it into your pocket and go out for a walk etc. Like I said, there are smaller setup that can satisfy those noncritical listening time.
 



Edited by ztsen - 9/7/10 at 8:17pm
post #148 of 2750
Ztsen:

Your point of view is well taken and there is no disagreement here. When we talk about the Stepdance, DAP, Solo Dac, etc. we are of course discussing in the portable domain and how some of there new equipments can bring us closer to the desktop SQ. That's all.
post #149 of 2750
Thread Starter 

I used the Stepdance with the Triple-fi's extensively last weekend. I was in high current mode and there is lots of power to get the most out the Triple-fi's lower end and to project a compelling soundstage. The Stepdance is very transparent with IEMs.

 

(Edit: I am not going into too much detail as the experience was focussed on assessing the Classic versus the iPhone 3Gs, not on the Stepdance. I was very happy with the role that the Stepdance played in the comparison exercise.)


Edited by cooperpwc - 9/8/10 at 1:43am
post #150 of 2750

Anyone have the volume control knob come loose yet? When I picked up my Stepdance yesterday, the little volume knob thingy dropped onto the floor. Luckily I noticed it and didn't loose it. (Lost a pair of SM3's in my move but that is a different story)

 

At any rate, I had to go to "one of those electrical stores" to get the absolute smallest "slotted" screwdriver to tighten it back on.I didn't even know screwdrivers this small even existed. I mean this thing is small (1.0 mm)

All is OK now but I thought I'd give a heads up.

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