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post #16 of 78
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I was gonna say, the SA5k is really cold. The HD800 is just clean, transparent, and accurate.


The 800 is clean and transparent, but not accurate. On high end solid state amps like the SPL Auditor the 800's have boost on the bass/sub and overpowering highs. So, if you thing the 800 is accurate what does mean about the SA5K?

post #17 of 78


A used DT48a/s/e for under 200 will give you more detail minus the extremely hot treble..I think the SA5000's detail replies too heavily on the upper frequencies & hot treble..

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One of the best currently still made, yes. The T1, PS1000, and Ed. 7,8,9 are up in the "super-high end", at least for dynamics.

 

The SA5k is probably the most detailed for the price, although the details may not be completely organic. Electrostats will beat any dynamic for details, any day.

post #18 of 78

The SA5K's IMHO are at their best on a good tube amp. Proper tubes can really tames the treble down.   Tho, the Meir Concerto seems to like the 5k's also.

post #19 of 78
Thread Starter 

umm can any of these be used on a portable amp? 

i dont sit at home all day :S

post #20 of 78

I've used the Fiio E7 connected to my iPad as a portable DAC and amp with the HD800 and the SA5000, works great!

It's a pity that the E7 cannot be used as a DAC with the iPods though. 
 

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umm can any of these be used on a portable amp? 

i dont sit at home all day :S

post #21 of 78
Thread Starter 

DAC? whats that...sorry im noob :P

which headphone do you think its better then?

can they be used on a sony walkman?

post #22 of 78
It's ok, you don't have to know everything. DAC = Digital to Analogue Converter. The Fiio E7 can take the digital signal from the iPad or your computer via USB and converts that into analogue signal and amplifiers it. I've never used a Sony Digital Walkman before but if it has USB out, it's quite likely that the E7 would work with it as a DAC. I personally think the SA5000 is no match for the HD800, but with the HD800 costing nearly 3 times as the SA5000, it's not that surprising.
Now the question is, do you really want to use something as big as the HD800 or SA5000 with your Sony Walkman?



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Originally Posted by Xymordos View Post


DAC? whats that...sorry im noob :P



which headphone do you think its better then?



can they be used on a sony walkman?

post #23 of 78
Thread Starter 

my sony Vivaz have a USB out :P

it can be used as a usb lol

but i dont think its music is good...is it?

 

to be honest..i dont mind walking around with giant headphones unless its mid summer lol

 

and which headphone can be compared to the hd800s

post #24 of 78

 

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my sony Vivaz have a USB out :P

it can be used as a usb lol

but i dont think its music is good...is it?

 

to be honest..i dont mind walking around with giant headphones unless its mid summer lol

 

and which headphone can be compared to the hd800s

 


OP it seems you're a bit too young for HD800, better stick with something portable and and (semi)closed, such as a koss ProtaPro. Going to the HD800 in a few years ahead will be a revelation....

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The 800 is clean and transparent, but not accurate. On high end solid state amps like the SPL Auditor the 800's have boost on the bass/sub and overpowering highs. So, if you thing the 800 is accurate what does mean about the SA5K?

No idea what your talking about about HD800 and Auditor, Currently listening with that setup and it's the most spot-on accurate sound i've yet to exprience. coming from recabled K701 it can match in transpernacy perhaps but the tonal balance and accuracy are defenitley not the same league.

 



 


Edited by Amarphael - 8/14/10 at 10:52am
post #25 of 78
Thread Starter 

heh. im getting it in a years time...

but im too lazy to actually go out and find each equipment :S

and i have brand loyalty to sennheiser and sony lol so yeah...

post #26 of 78

In that case, maybe you should consider the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II, they are less expensive, less bulky and easy to drive without the need for a portable amp, and they look quite good, and you can get the adidas edition if you want to look flashy.

The HD800 maybe one of the best, but it's bulky, hard to drive, just the cable alone is 10 times the weight of my iPod, and it made me look like the android from 'Metropolis' when I'm wearing it. Plus, both the HD800 and the SA5000 are open type headphones, not particularly good as portables and for outdoor, whereas the HD 25 are closed, I think it's a better choice for you.

 

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heh. im getting it in a years time...

but im too lazy to actually go out and find each equipment :S

and i have brand loyalty to sennheiser and sony lol so yeah...

post #27 of 78
Thread Starter 

hmm...lol i dont even bring my closed ones out :S

 

maybe i'll get IE8 instead, sorry i just dont like sport type headphones.

 

Hey by the way, did you see the new Sennheiser CX980? is that any good?

post #28 of 78

I have the SA5000, and I would never recommend using it as a portable. The band is quite fragile, and it broke on me after a short drop. The cable also broke when I carelessly stood up while listening to it (yeah... I'm going detachable cables from now on). I was able to repair it, but it just strikes me as fragile.

 

As for the sound, the treble can be harsh at times. It is quite fast and detailed, which is nice. Compared to my HD650, switching to the Sony makes it sound like a veil has been lifted from the music. Then again, the Sennheiser veil is liked by a lot of people... the HD650 is definitely easier to listen to, especially when the recordings aren't very good. I have an old blues CD that I simply can't listen to with the Sony, but can with the Sennheiser.

 

 

I've never used the HD800, but I wouldn't carry around something that expensive.

post #29 of 78
Thread Starter 

from what i got...Expensive = Fragile LOL

hmm...which is better for drum solos, and which is better for guitar solos?

post #30 of 78

 

It's sad but true, the cable of my HD800 just snapped with a pull, and am still waiting for Sennheiser to send me a new one. I really cannot imagine what would happen if I dropped the HD800 on a hard floor.

I don't think one can just categorize headphones like that, different brand guitars and drums sound differently and how they were played and recorded made them sound totally different.

But IE8s are good at giving a 'live' feel to music which I like.

BTW, the HD25s are not sport headphones, they are design for DJs.


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from what i got...Expensive = Fragile LOL

hmm...which is better for drum solos, and which is better for guitar solos?

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