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post #1 of 21
8/9/10 at 11:04am
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PocketDock Line Out Mini USB

 

SendStation’s brand-new, ultra-tiny PocketDock Line Out Mini USB is probably the handiest accessory for your iPod & iPhone you can think of:
Sync & Charge plus Hi-Fi quality Line Out Audio wherever you go.

Use existing USB wall or car chargers or simply unplug the standard 5-pin Mini USB cable from that digital camera, portable hard drive, GPS, PDA etc. to charge your iPod’s/iPhone’s battery or synchronize data.

Did you know that there’s better sound than your headphone jack has to offer? It is called Line Out:

The PocketDock Line Out Mini USB allows you to easily connect to your home or car stereo or DJ equipment with crystal clear, pristine audio quality.

The possibilities go far beyond just music from the iPod: Get an iPhone app like ooTunes or Sirius XM and listen to Internet or Satellite radio streams on the road. Experience a whole new level of your iPhone/iPod games with powerful sound from big, bold speakers.

Side effect: Line Out consumes slightly less power, resulting in longer iPod/iPhone battery life.

Plug & Play (it loud)
The two most common audio cables are included too, so you can get connected right out of the box:

• 1/8″ (3.5 mm) mini – mini
• 1/8″ (3.5 mm) mini – RCA

Slim style, 6 ft. (180 cm) in length, with thumb-friendly shaped RCA (Cinch) plugs.

Line Out and USB can be used either separate or both together at once, allowing you to charge the battery while enjoying Hi-Fi quality audio at the same time.
Tiny package, small price
The PocketDock Line Out Mini USB is so incredibly small, it even fits into your wallet. And it doesn’t cost a fortune either.

 

$29.95 Each

  
Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #2 of 21
8/9/10 at 4:59pm

I owned a previous version and this system is pretty convenient since it allows charging and output to your favorite amp at the same time. Other docks are not so flexible.

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post #3 of 21
8/9/10 at 6:46pm

It is not the equivalent in audio quality to the iPad's camera kit usb connection - based on what I have read, but please correct me if I am wrong.  I have both.  Also,  you cannot adjust line out volume using the iPod's volume control - something the ad doesn't specify and I had to research on the internet.  

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post #4 of 21
8/9/10 at 8:07pm
Ridleyguy, I believe you're right on both counts

The advantage of pulling the digital from the iPad with camera adapter is you can actually feed the digital signal from the iPad into a higher quality external DAC, something you can't do from an iPod except with a device made specifically for that purpose and costing more than the iPod. And there are only a handful of devices to do that on the market.

The Sendstation dock is designed bypass the iPod's modest amplification circuits (but not the DAC) to feed a high level analog signal to a better amp than what's in the iPod. But by bypassing the internal iPod amp, you lose the ability to control volume. But you get a cleaner signal output.
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post #5 of 21
8/9/10 at 8:57pm
I have a previous version of this connected to a mount in my car. It works for sending aux from my iPhone while it is charging.

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post #6 of 21
8/10/10 at 5:24am

So this basically bypasses the iPod amp? Interesting, does it work with the iPhone 4? And how do i get this if i live in Singapore?

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post #7 of 21
8/10/10 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by darknessproz View Post
So this basically bypasses the iPod amp? Interesting, does it work with the iPhone 4? And how do i get this if i live in Singapore?


Try the SendStation website: http://www.sendstation.com/

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post #8 of 21
8/10/10 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by Bombarde View Post
The Sendstation dock is designed bypass the iPod's modest amplification circuits (but not the DAC) to feed a high level analog signal to a better amp than what's in the iPod. But by bypassing the internal iPod amp, you lose the ability to control volume. But you get a cleaner signal output.
 


It is technically cleaner, but the difference in sound quality is not that noticeable.  IMO, an internal iPod DAC bypass would have been much more beneficial.  I've had mine for about a month, and aside from this, it doesn't seem to keep a full 100% connection.  I have to constantly wiggle the adapter to get sound from both channels and/or keep the USB charge going.

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post #9 of 21
8/10/10 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by gPope View Post


It is technically cleaner, but the difference in sound quality is not that noticeable.  IMO, an internal iPod DAC bypass would have been much more beneficial.  I've had mine for about a month, and aside from this, it doesn't seem to keep a full 100% connection.  I have to constantly wiggle the adapter to get sound from both channels and/or keep the USB charge going.


Agree on the DAC bypass! Which is one of the reasons I ended up buying a Peachtree iDecco. 

 

But there are few devices that can do this - the Wadia, iDecco, Onkyo ND-S1, and the upcoming Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm are the only ones I'm aware of. The AlgoRhythm is the only one that is portable.

 

I don't totally understand why this is an expensive thing to accomplish, but I think there are some proprietary chips that need to be obtained through Apple, and who knows what kind of licensing agreements. I'm guessing that the music industry is likely very nervous about people being able to pull straight digital out of an iPod, and makes Apple jump through all sorts of hoops to keep people from capturing that stream as a means of bypassing DRM.

 

But back on topic- even if you don't get a greatly improved signal out of the PocketDock, it's still a great way to feed a portable headphone amp, rather than having to crank up the iPod's internal amp, and having to deal with two volume controls.

 

Re: your connection issue - I don't own this model, but I've previously owned 2 other PocketDocks, and they worked flawlessly. Sounds like you might have a lemon; I'd contact Sendstation and see what they think.

 

Cheers...

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post #10 of 21
8/10/10 at 8:18pm
Mine has never had a problem, either. It is perfect for the car because it saves me from having to plug into the headphone jack every time I get in the car. I just mount the iPhone and it plays and charges.
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post #11 of 21
8/11/10 at 4:08pm
Thread Starter 

The SendStation is an analog output only Device. It will not output a digital signal via USB as the new Camera Connection Kit will with the new Gen 4 iPhone and iPad. The Sendstation works with all Generation iPhones/iPods and the new iPad to output analog audio via the 3.5mm female jack.

No you can not adjust the volume with a Sendstation dock as it is a true line out signal. This is the benefit of the pieces as it bypass the crap headphone amp in the device.

 

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Originally Posted by Ridleyguy View Post

It is not the equivalent in audio quality to the iPad's camera kit usb connection - based on what I have read, but please correct me if I am wrong.  I have both.  Also,  you cannot adjust line out volume using the iPod's volume control - something the ad doesn't specify and I had to research on the internet.  

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #12 of 21
8/11/10 at 4:09pm
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Correct it bypasses the Amp. Yes it works with all iPhones. We ship worldwide, email us to order.

 

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Originally Posted by darknessproz View Post

So this basically bypasses the iPod amp? Interesting, does it work with the iPhone 4? And how do i get this if i live in Singapore?

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #13 of 21
8/11/10 at 4:22pm
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Yes it is a licensing and digital rights issue. Docks and LOD cables are the way to go for analog output. I hope to crack open a camera kit this wknd to see what makes it tick how it gets a digital signal.


For home use I use the Denon ASD-51W

 

It is so much more versatile than the Wadia. You can connect it to a home network and it is IP addressable. Giving you a web based control and you can then not only stream the ipod audio but also music files on the your computer or server, Internet Radio and other stuff.

 

Check out the manual here

 

We sell both the Wadia($349) and the Denon($299)


 

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Originally Posted by Bombarde View Post




Agree on the DAC bypass! Which is one of the reasons I ended up buying a Peachtree iDecco. 

 

But there are few devices that can do this - the Wadia, iDecco, Onkyo ND-S1, and the upcoming Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm are the only ones I'm aware of. The AlgoRhythm is the only one that is portable.

 

I don't totally understand why this is an expensive thing to accomplish, but I think there are some proprietary chips that need to be obtained through Apple, and who knows what kind of licensing agreements. I'm guessing that the music industry is likely very nervous about people being able to pull straight digital out of an iPod, and makes Apple jump through all sorts of hoops to keep people from capturing that stream as a means of bypassing DRM.

 

But back on topic- even if you don't get a greatly improved signal out of the PocketDock, it's still a great way to feed a portable headphone amp, rather than having to crank up the iPod's internal amp, and having to deal with two volume controls.

 

Re: your connection issue - I don't own this model, but I've previously owned 2 other PocketDocks, and they worked flawlessly. Sounds like you might have a lemon; I'd contact Sendstation and see what they think.

 

Cheers...

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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post #14 of 21
9/4/10 at 7:40am

Did I miss a page ? I know the iPad USB Camera adapter will feed an external DAC but will it work with an iPhone4 /iPodTouch?

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post #15 of 21
9/5/10 at 2:36pm
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The iPad USB Camera adapter will only work with the iPad and latest generation iPhone. Not with anything else from what I understand.

 

Not all USB dacs will work with the iPad USB Camera adapter as well. Also if your USB dac only offers 16bit/44.1kHz resolution then the Denon will allow higher resolution via the coax output. Or for those that dont own a USB Dac this offers a digital output option from there iPod/iTouch/iPhone.



 

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Originally Posted by mobilebritain View Post

Did I miss a page ? I know the iPad USB Camera adapter will feed an external DAC but will it work with an iPhone4 /iPodTouch?

Thank You. Drew Baird, P.E. Moon Audio 308 Chrismill Lane Holly Springs, NC 27540 919-649-5018 drew@moon-audio.com http://www.moon-audio.com
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