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A few months back I purchased some ad900's and I love them, but I can't take them on family trips because the sound leaks out obviously because it's an open back headphone. So, I'm looking for some good closed back headphones around the 100-150$ mark. I've been looking at the Denon d1001s pretty hard but have a few questions.

 

How well do they isolate sound and keep it from leaking out? Keep in mind I like to listen to my music pretty loud.

I'm mostly going to be using this with an Iphone/Ipod/Ipad, so how well will those devices run them. I also have a pico, so will that help much?

 

Those are pretty much the main questions I have about the headphones. I was also looking at the audio technica a700 closed headphones, so if anyone has anything to say about those, please feel free. From what I've heard the denons have alot more base than the a700s.

 

So, those are the two main headphones im looking at right now, and I'm leaning toward the d1001s. Any other closed headphone in that price range I should look at? Thanks

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post #2 of 11

The Denon's don't isolate all that great but they do keep the sound in pretty well where someone will not hear your music unless they are close to you and the music is loud.

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I have the 1001 and use it with my ipod. It does not need an amp and I play it with the ipod sometimes all the way and people do not hear music coming out but you can hear outside. They are great for portable use and sound very good. Highly recommended and Baka has a very nice Silver pair for sale in the F/S section for 70.00 and they are mint because I have seen them. Hope this helps.

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I have the 1001 and use it with my ipod. It does not need an amp and I play it with the ipod sometimes all the way and people do not hear music coming out but you can hear outside. They are great for portable use and sound very good. Highly recommended and Baka has a very nice Silver pair for sale in the F/S section for 70.00 and they are mint because I have seen them. Hope this helps.



So the ipod can power them to pretty high volume levels with clarity? And thanks for the responses guys.

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also, is there any difference between the black and silver (d1001s) models other than the color?

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also, is there any difference between the black and silver (d1001s) models other than the color?


no difference same can.

post #7 of 11

The denon 1001 / Creative Aurvana Live! are awesome little headphones. I actually prefer them to the V6 and hfi780. They are very light and isolate as well as anything else. Extremely comfortable - I wear mine at work for hours every day. They use the baby-brother driver of the Denon 2000, 5000, 7000, meaning they use a bio-cellulose membrane, which is damn cool. They give good clarity and good punch. I have seen the Creative version (yes they are almost identical) for $54 at Costco around xmas. Sometimes the Denon 1001 go for $150. They aren't worth that... maybe around $70 for what they are.

post #8 of 11

I also agree that the isolation is quite poor due to the "acoustic optimizer" vent.  If there is a lot of outside noise it ruins the listening experience and a lot of detail is lost.

 

To me, the 1001's are great for bringing headphones to a place where you won't have your desktop setup but is quiet enough to enjoy the music.  They are not for airplanes and coffee shops.

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After a lot of reading up on different closed headphones in my price range, i decided to go with the audio technica m50. I liked a lot of what i read about the d1001 except that it doesn't isolate very well and that was a big thing for me. I've heard nothing but good things about the m50 so i think ill be pleased. Thanks to all for the responses.
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Originally Posted by UnderTheBridge View Post

After a lot of reading up on different closed headphones in my price range, i decided to go with the audio technica m50. I liked a lot of what i read about the d1001 except that it doesn't isolate very well and that was a big thing for me. I've heard nothing but good things about the m50 so i think ill be pleased. Thanks to all for the responses.


BH Photo is selling them for 106.00 shipped. I am tempted to try them at that price to see how they sound. I love the small nature of the 1001 with the ipod which will be in use today. Good choice either can probably cant go wrong. The Shure 840 which I sold also was a very nice can. Good luck and enjoy

post #11 of 11

The CAL!s are some of the best deals in audio. They share everything with the d1001ks except for two things. Earpads are better, oddly enough, though not more isolating, just a bit fuller/softer. Same materials, just a little different to allow them to have a little more on the bottom end than the d1001s.

 

The earcup internal volume and external cosmetics. The external cosmetics, to me, the piano black with the metal accents, very nice, but the Denons are designed so that the internal volume of the phones are tuned to slightly different listening styles. To put it simply, the d1001s are better for symphony music, the CAL!s are better for more mid-bass and low bass music like hiphop, electronic music, and rock, where you don't want ear piercing highs. There are some mods that can be easily done on the CAL!s that will make them spank stock d1001s in every area, symphony music, jazz, chamber music, contemporary classical music, and so forth. Everything else is exactly the same, bcause they are made by the same company, so same driver, same driver baffle, same internal wire-type, same headband, same everything, but the cable on the d1001s is a tiny bit better externally, as the plug is better, to me, but the CAL!s plug is lower profile. Both phones have an extension cable, and while the one for the denons is bad, the one for the creatives is just aweful, but for both you should get a better extension cable anyway, so it really doesn't matter. The bags that come with the phones, the denons have no label, and the creatives have a little creative tag, but both are same size and material.

 

I would get the Aurvanas out of the two, but the m50s are superior in isolation, for sure, but with the right mods, it is very hard to knock the d1001/cal! out of the contender picture.

 

To me, from a portable, the aurvanas/denons would be a better choice. I have pretty good spatial instrument location from my Sansa, which, the Sony XB700s fit well on a portable too, are sensitive as hell, but they are for those that don't mind the look, and are willing to take them seriously as more than just a bass headphone. The modded aurvanas, to me, are a bit more punchy than the xb700s on a portable, and the m50s have a very natural HF and metallic instruments sound smooth and sweet, I just don't like to mate them with my Sansa because they need a tad more power, though you say you have some kind of portable amplification option, so it may be a good fit. I would ditch more opamps in the chain and get a set of cans that can work with the DAP's own little amp, which already is often not the best due to cost cutting. The Cowan players were made for music, so much better, and the Zune, of course, has a far better output for a portable player than the ipod/iphone, but you don't get all the usefulness of all the applications for the apple device. It is all about what you want more, I guess. I would count out the apple simply because you have to jump through so many damn hoops to put music on it. The zune is not much better, but at least you can use WMP, so it is fairly seamless. I bought the Sansa over a nano because the sansa mounts as a HD, and you just copy your music into the music folder. Done. It also doesn't sound any worse than a nano. On that level, SQ is going to be about the same, and it is personal preference. Right now, The Cowan players, the ZuneHD and Sony has some good players, but I would be careful trusting sony, those i named here have the SQ crown. A lot of people here use older ipods because they just sound better, even through the line out, they just seem to sound better. All the recent BS with the iphone4 shows me exactly where apple has it's sights set and it isn't music. If MS would only make a phone! ZuneHD+phone/windows apps=


Edited by yashu - 8/7/10 at 7:36am
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