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Audiophile sound quality not really difficult to make?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 

Perhaps this question is geared for studio people or enthusiasts in recording:

 

I purchased a multitrack digital recorder, a condenser studio microphone and a tube microphone preamp that has a transformer inside- The basic solid components of recording I think.

 

When I recorded tracks of my acoustic guitar and guitar solo and made a test CD and played it back on my system, I was stunned how good it sounded. If it wasn't audiophile sound, it was still very good and I could hear the nuances of the wood of my acoustic. No effects or reverb type processing was added which kind of made it sound more of a 70s style recording I suppose.

 

I figure if I had an upgraded  microphone, and more powerful preamp, it's probably all I really need to make a hi fi recording. Am I right?

post #2 of 24

Why does the preamp need to be more powerful? The term powerful disturbs me (in general). How do you put more power into a given load when you are running a fixed line level? If you want the preamp to have a specific sound describe that.

 

On that note, you can make freakishly good recordings using simple techniques... provided of course that what you are recording does not require any post-processing which is the realm of multi-channel recordings (more than 2) and where things become impossible.


Edited by nikongod - 8/4/10 at 7:49am
post #3 of 24

I honestly think simplicity is what makes a good recording. Thats how MFSL does all their remasters, anyway.

post #4 of 24

Consider that excellent recordings were made 40 and 50 years ago with equipment that was nowhere as good as what you have.  I think it's more about how you use what you have.

post #5 of 24
Thread Starter 

Awesome. Thanks. I plan on upgrading to an AKG condenser mic since they are known for their warmth and clarity. I'm all for hi fi baby.

post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by revolink24 View Post

I honestly think simplicity is what makes a good recording. Thats how MFSL does all their remasters, anyway.


Simplicity is always a good thing. Too bad MFSL doesn't use their ears (or proper research) most of the time.

 

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik View Post

Consider that excellent recordings were made 40 and 50 years ago with equipment that was nowhere as good as what you have.  I think it's more about how you use what you have.


X 2! Some of the best recordings I have ever heard used less than 5 microphones and technology with specs that are worse than even the cheapo gear you can find at guitar center!

post #7 of 24

Go find a 1970s Teac Reel to Reel, get two basic Shure mikes place them at different parts of the room and record straight into the recorder. You will be floored at how much a basic set-up like this blows away the digital compression out there!

post #8 of 24

Recording a natural analog source is totally diffent than rendering electonicly produced noise. A man sitting and playing an acoustic instrument is making noises that aren't music, yet lends itself to the acoustic experience. Beside the instrument sound, the man is breathing, his fingers imperfectly move, and his clothes rustle. To some this is distancting crap that needs to be edited out somehow, to others it's a perfect rendition of a live performance. To me, perfection is enhanced by a few artifacts.

With electonic music, all bets are off. Either you agree with the final product or you don't. It's a totally manipulated construct, so there's not much sense talking hi-fi when there's no acoustic reference.

post #9 of 24

nothing sounds better than a Neumann U87 through a vintage preamp...difficult? no. pricey? yes.

 

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post #10 of 24
Thread Starter 

The Neuman U87 is legendary and in the realm of summit fi gear. One of the sexiest mics ever.

post #11 of 24

 

Mic-Fi and Head-fi go hand-in-hand. On the head-fi side, it's all about headphones, amps, and DAC; on the mic side, it's all about mics, preamps, and ADC. Both have one thing in common: "sorry about your wallet!" I'm surprised Mic-Fi.org doesn't exist, not even the .com one. Someone better get to it. I'd like to know more about the recording (input) side of the audio chain besides the output side. I'd like to be able to record someday.

post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 

The only thing closest to mic fi I've seen on the internet is the tapers forum. Mics are a part of that hobby. I have a pair of portable Audio Technica mini mics that I've used to tape concerts. Coincedently, they kind of look like IEMs but powerful enough to capture big sounds.

 

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Originally Posted by HeadFi Fanatic View Post

 

Mic-Fi and Head-fi go hand-in-hand. On the head-fi side, it's all about headphones, amps, and DAC; on the mic side, it's all about mics, preamps, and ADC. Both have one thing in common: "sorry about your wallet!" I'm surprised Mic-Fi.org doesn't exist, not even the .com one.
 

post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 

Here's a good article about Diana Krall's recording session which used great technique.

 

http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_producer_tommy_lipuma/

post #14 of 24

A little off topic but can you share your file that you recorded? thanks! 

post #15 of 24

Simplicity is always best when it comes to recording. A nice pure sound. The fabled "Jazz at the Pawnshop" (which I think sucks - dull and vaguely amateurish) is so-loved for its sound when you can tell its nothing more than a pair of goods mics stuck on poles. Yes, simplicity is definitely the appeal with that recording. But that's why I think albums like Dark Side of the Moon deserve credit and are considered a milestone because they're using overdubbing and a lot of other fancy techiques and it still sounds good.


Edited by chadbang - 8/9/10 at 1:19pm
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