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post #1 of 163
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I now have Hifiman and i want JH3A but i cant afford it. So i must sell Hifiman. Can people that plan or had buy JH3A give us idea how will feed JH3A?Or give us any idea. Can i use only JH3A system feed form computer by coaxial cable?

 

thanks for all tips


Edited by Tidus - 8/3/10 at 1:37am
post #2 of 163

If you want a portable setup, there are only two options (to use the digital input):

 

iPod with CypherLabs AlgoRhythm Solo

 

iRiver H1x0

 

If you are OK with analogue input, I would look into the HifiMan HM-602 and the S:Flo 2.

post #3 of 163

Or the HiFiMan HM-801. Depends what floats your boat.

post #4 of 163
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Originally Posted by violinvirtuoso View Post

If you want a portable setup, there are only two options (to use the digital input):

 

iPod with CypherLabs AlgoRhythm Solo

 

iRiver H1x0

 

If you are OK with analogue input, I would look into the HifiMan HM-602 and the S:Flo 2.

 

And from the Solo to the JH3A, what does one use?

 

By the way, the crew at Cypherlabs sent me the following email to my inquiry about when the Solo might be ready for purchase.

 

 

Nothing new yet, but we anticipate some announcements in the coming weeks. Stay tuned.

Thanks,

The Cypher Labs Sales Team
 
 

post #5 of 163
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Originally Posted by Hero Kid View Post

Or the HiFiMan HM-801. Depends what floats your boat.


Yes the HifiMan HM-801 would work, but I believe the OP is trying to sell his HifiMan. He can't afford the HM-801 and JH-3A.

post #6 of 163

Oh yeah duh. I read that when I first read this topic yesterday but forgot when I posted today ;)

post #7 of 163
Thread Starter 

Ye I cant afford both. And if I can, the hifiman and jh3A will be a bit bulky combo.

post #8 of 163

one quick question:

what's best for me?

imod with line out?

or iPod with CypherLabs AlgoRhythm Solo?

I am totally confused?

post #9 of 163

Short answer: If you can deal with the price and bulk, the Algorhythm Solo will give you the best sound.

Explanation: The iMod's Line-out signal has the signal go through the iPod's internal DAC and out the Line-Out (and then through some capacitors). This makes a very clean signal, great for use with an amplifier. The bottleneck of the iMod is the internal DAC. This DAC is great for portable audio, but not so great when everything else in your rig is top-notch. For example, one rig that some people own is an iMod -> Some top-notch iPod LOD -> External Capacitors (V-Cap Dock) -> RCA Interconnect -> LISA III -> headphones. Assuming they have good headphones, the weak link is the internal DAC.

The Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm Solo bypasses the internal DAC in the iPod. The Algorhythm Solo supposedly (I don't know) has a high-quality DAC inside it. But what makes the AlgoRhythm Solo really awesome, is that you can output a digital signal. If you use the AlgoRhythm Solo with the JH-3A, you will be feeding the JH-3A the best possible signal. The signal won't be damaged by bad DACs, amps, etc. Everything would be top-notch. If you rockboxed your iPod, you would be able to play full 24 bit songs. If you input an analogue signal into the JH-3A, it just converts it back into digital for use with the DSP. So if you don't want to damage the signal, you will input digital.

 

Pros: You can have up to 240 GB of the best portable audio (so far) with a great user interface.

 

Cons: You will carrying around 3 boxes costing about $2500.


Edited by violinvirtuoso - 8/6/10 at 9:43am
post #10 of 163

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post #11 of 163

thanks for great answer
can i use imod with Algorhythm Solo ?
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by violinvirtuoso View Post

Short answer: If you can deal with the price and bulk, the Algorhythm Solo will give you the best sound.

Explanation: The iMod's Line-out signal has the signal go through the iPod's internal DAC and out the Line-Out (and then through some capacitors). This makes a very clean signal, great for use with an amplifier. The bottleneck of the iMod is the internal DAC. This DAC is great for portable audio, but not so great when everything else in your rig is top-notch. For example, one rig that some people own is an iMod -> Some top-notch iPod LOD -> External Capacitors (V-Cap Dock) -> RCA Interconnect -> LISA III -> headphones. Assuming they have good headphones, the weak link is the internal DAC.

The Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm Solo bypasses the internal DAC in the iPod. The Algorhythm Solo supposedly (I don't know) has a high-quality DAC inside it. But what makes the AlgoRhythm Solo really awesome, is that you can output a digital signal. If you use the AlgoRhythm Solo with the JH-3A, you will be feeding the JH-3A the best possible signal. The signal won't be damaged by bad DACs, amps, etc. Everything would be top-notch. If you rockboxed your iPod, you would be able to play full 24 bit songs. If you input an analogue signal into the JH-3A, it just converts it back into digital for use with the DSP. So if you don't want to damage the signal, you will input digital.

 

Pros: You can have up to 240 GB of the best portable audio (so far) with a great user interface.

 

Cons: You will carrying around 3 boxes costing about $2500.

post #12 of 163
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Originally Posted by thehadi View Post

thanks for great answer
can i use imod with Algorhythm Solo ?


You probably can. I don't know for sure though. If you want to confirm, you should ask the people at Cypher Labs:

 

sales@cypherlabs.com

post #13 of 163
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Originally Posted by violinvirtuoso View Post




You probably can. I don't know for sure though. If you want to confirm, you should ask the people at Cypher Labs:

 

sales@cypherlabs.com

Virtuoso,

 

You are correct.  I talked with Ken at ALO via email today and he says to connect the iMod one will need a short mini to USB to connect to the Solo.

 

Here's one email from Ken.

 

The USB on the Solo is the input from the source which is a iPod. Yes we are also making a small ipod to USB cable for the Solo. The solo will take the digital signal off the ipod and DA convert the signal then out put this analog via mini jack. 

 

Here's part of a second email from Ken.

 

I do have a working prototype of the AlgoRhytm Solo and can report that it really is THE best thing every in a portable set up, also pretty damn good as a small home source as well. I think its going to be a huge hit... if we can ever get it done.
post #14 of 163
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Originally Posted by violinvirtuoso View Post
... If you rockboxed your iPod, you would be able to play full 24 bit songs. If you input an analogue signal into the JH-3A, it just converts it back into digital for use with the DSP....


Sorry, a rockboxed iPod will NOT output 24 bit songs - it converts it to 16 bit.  This was the reason I decided not to rockbox my iPod and settled for an iMod instead.

 

CJ
:)

post #15 of 163


hi kiwirugby,

but don't we need digital signal for out put?

if i wrong please correct me,

you sad it right?

imod - AlgoRhytm Solo - analog signal - jh-3a dsp - digital signal?

 

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwirugby View Post

 

The USB on the Solo is the input from the source which is a iPod. Yes we are also making a small ipod to USB cable for the Solo. The solo will take the digital signal off the ipod and DA convert the signal then out put this analog via mini jack. 

 


Edited by thehadi - 8/7/10 at 3:08am
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