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Rant against wireless routers without external antennas. Arrgg with Linksys WRT310N

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

I simply don't understand the recent trend of sleek wireless routers without external antennae, namely Linksys.  Most reviews confirm that their wireless strength and speed drops off much more rapidly as distance increases, yet Linksys has essentially gotten rid of external antennae across their models.  

 

I was foolish enough to get Linksys WRT310N, which is fine close-range, but from upstairs, its download speed drops off to 1/3 of my old D-Link DI-624 G-router.  

 

That's when it was working well.  It suddenly started to become slower, not responding to power-off cycle, until it finally died. I then wasted hours on the phone with Linksys "support," and I am supposed to get another WRT310N under warranty.  The second tier support guy offered to sell me their E2000 at $120 minus $15 discount, saying the WRT310N has known "problems" and he recommends the new model.  

 

Seeing how the E2000 street price is $99 at Walmart, etc, I declined, but if the second WRT310N decides to act up, I guess I'm out of luck.click to zoom

post #2 of 21

Have you tried installing open source firmware?

 

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_WRT310N_v1.0

post #3 of 21

Yeah, that is a downside of putting design over function.

post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Kirosia View Post

Have you tried installing open source firmware?

 

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_WRT310N_v1.0


Well, it's too late now since there is something seriously wrong with the router, and I'm unable to even access the 192.xxx router web page to load any firmwares.  Even if I could, dd-wrt won't help with not having nice external atennae.

post #5 of 21

I was thinking of adding an extended range antenna to my old Netgear router but discovered that the antenna on my model is not removable :(

 

Living in small apartments with loads of walls means I can't connect or only manage a very weak and unstable connection to my router via wifi, even though my living is only around 10 -12 steps from my study where the router is placed. Really sucks.

post #6 of 21

My WRT610N also had less range than I expected. HAD. The wireless died on both bands yesterday, I'm hoping it's just DD-WRT and not a hardware issue. It'll at least work as a decent gigabit switch if nothing else.

post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by MCC View Post

My WRT610N also had less range than I expected. HAD. The wireless died on both bands yesterday, I'm hoping it's just DD-WRT and not a hardware issue. It'll at least work as a decent gigabit switch if nothing else.


That's too bad about he 610N.  I really need the range upstairs, so even if I get another Linksys WRT310N, I think I'll just try to sell it and get a better router with a bunch of antennae.  I've been researching, and it's VERY difficult to find a N router with multiple external antennae, confirmed by reviews to have great range with speed, reliable, AND reasonably priced.

 

It almost makes more sense to pick up an ancient Linksys WRT54GL or G2 G-router

post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 

 A little update.  I RMA'd the WRT310N and received another one.  I was sent a version 2, though the one I had was version 1; apparently the version 1 is the "better" version and more reliable 

 

At any rate, the second one set up fine and worked great initially; however, even after 3 days, it started to behave oddly again, mainly internet speeds slowly drifting down over time, which is fixed if you power-cycle the router but recurs every time.  

 

Doing some search, I found numerous posts about this same issue with this WRTXXX line.  Some reported better results after ditching the Linkysis firmware and flashing DD-WRT.  I flashed DD-WRT, and the router's been working great so far (fingers crossed).  Will report back if it holds up.

 

*Warning* Flashing the Linksys WRT310 with DD-WRT is not exactly trivial, so one must follow the steps carefully, but even after reviewing several different guidelines, I still had to work out a few kinks on my own..

 

In addition, I addressed the poor signal upstairs by buying a USB wireless N adapter with a large antenna.  Still not optimal but much better than before without the flexibility of placement and small antenna.


Edited by Jon L - 8/9/10 at 1:00pm
post #9 of 21

Glad to hear that you have a working router now. The default firmware on Linksys equipment is sub-optimal but anyone with Qwest will know that the proprietary firmware they put on their modem/router combos is the worst. It grinds to a halt with 100 connections, port forwarding for a VPN doesn't actually work and DHCP turns itself back on when you reset the device. Their support told me that they all share the same firmware/terrible bugs and I would just have to get a 3rd party device.

 

The WRT610N now works after flashing the latest DD-WRT, but I did notice that they used junky Su'scon capacitors inside. I'm going to replace them with some Nichicon polymer types on my next Mouser order.

 

I pried open the power brick and was surprised to find quality UCC caps. I couldn't get a good look at everything since one half of the plastic shell was securely glued to the transformer.


Edited by MCC - 8/9/10 at 1:47pm
post #10 of 21
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Oh, well, even after DD-WRT, my second Linksys WRT310N is still having wireless speed slowdown intermittently.  I have given up on Linksys support, since they refuse to do anything else other than sending me yet another WRT310N with me paying for shipping, which I already paid once for the first unit.  

 

I guess I'm stuck power cycling the Linksys after couple of days.  STAY AWAY from Linksys WRTXXX N routers, however cheap they sell them.  I hear their new E series routers are more stable; but you know who will never buy another Linksys to try finding out 

post #11 of 21

I'm sorry to hear that. Either there's a hardware design problem with the WRT310N or your computer has compatibility issues with it. Have you tried updating your WiFi drivers?

post #12 of 21

** Staying away from Linksys **

post #13 of 21

No joke. And for a while, I thought Linksys routers were reliable.

 

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Originally Posted by krmathis View Post

** Staying away from Linksys **

post #14 of 21

my WRT160N worked great for over a year...had decent range. My bed is about 20 meters from the router and separated by a cinderblock wall, no problems until an afternoon thunderstorm with tons of lightning hit last week. My phone was down for 2 days and the WRT160N has about a 3 meter range now. Any opinions on the best all around wireless router?

post #15 of 21

My WRT160N worked fine.......for just 1 year and it stopped working completely. I got a D Link and never had any problems.

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