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post #46 of 136
9/6/10 at 7:41am
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it is not an improved version. Without comparing I'd say the RE0 is not better than the RE-Zero and the other way is true as well since I don't feel the RE-Zero is better than the RE0. They just have different presentations like I mentioned earlier.

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post #47 of 136
9/6/10 at 5:02pm


 

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

it is not an improved version. Without comparing I'd say the RE0 is not better than the RE-Zero and the other way is true as well since I don't feel the RE-Zero is better than the RE0. They just have different presentations like I mentioned earlier.


I agree.

Some may prefer 1 over the other.

I prefer the ZEROs because it does a better job with the mids (more forward & smoother) IMO. I really like the way vocals come out on the ZEROs.

RE0s are a bit more aggressive in the highs and extend a bit further, but their mids appear dryer to me than the ZEROs.

RE0s seem to cut through more in the highs and female vocals can really slice through nicely, but overall i prefer the smoother and more forward approach to the mids that the ZEROs present (the highs are also nice and crisp on the ZEROs).

I'd say you'd probably get equal people on both sides of the debate as it really is a personal preference.

 

I just came across this review recently posted from "ClieOS".

It pretty much sums it up as far as a comparison to the RE0

 

[REVIEW] HifiMan RE-ZERO - Time to Celebrate


Edited by paulypaul - 9/6/10 at 7:09pm
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post #48 of 136
9/7/10 at 9:18am

I haven't had a chance to hear the RE0, but I really don't think that I could live without the ZERO's silky mids. But even then, sometimes I sit and wonder that if the ZERO treble is this good, what must the RE0 treble be like?

 

It's a pickle. I went for the Zero because they're balanced (I hope that Head-Direct's balanced portable amp is around the $100-$130 mark, otherwise I'm screwed) and because I like the gunmetal colour. I couldn't decide on signature (without having heard either, mind) alone.

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post #49 of 136
9/7/10 at 3:06pm
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It's a pickle. I went for the Zero because they're balanced (I hope that Head-Direct's balanced portable amp is around the $100-$130 mark, otherwise I'm screwed) and because I like the gunmetal colour. I couldn't decide on signature (without having heard either, mind) alone.


Im hoping for a balanced DAP at some time, but that may just be wishful thinking

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post #50 of 136
9/7/10 at 3:45pm
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I think the review ClieOS made covers a good amount of differences between the RE0 and RE-Zero. The RE0 treble is indeed quite nice but not to everyone's liking. I almost went ahead and bought a RE0 to compare with for this review but then realized I didn't want to lose around 20-30 in reselling a pair.

 

I know Fang mentioned something about a balanced dap and I'm hoping it isn't too expensive. It could be interested to see how the RE-Zero does with a balanced amp. I do wonder how it sounds from a protector or any other balanced amp but with a couple of converters in the middle of a chain might not be ideal.

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post #51 of 136
9/8/10 at 6:05pm

So, how close is this to the "1000" limited edition pairs?

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post #52 of 136
9/8/10 at 6:08pm

This is the limited edition.

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post #53 of 136
9/9/10 at 2:28am

one week left before i get them.i can't wait

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post #54 of 136
9/10/10 at 1:08am
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This is the limited edition.



I'm sorry I meant how much there were left. How close it was to being sold out.

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post #55 of 136
9/10/10 at 1:58am

Head-Direct would know.

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post #56 of 136
9/10/10 at 9:39am
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I'm sorry I meant how much there were left. How close it was to being sold out.


I am also interested in knowing this. Not because I want to stock up for the nuclear apocalyse (although that's not a bad plan... hmm) but just out of interest. I doubt that they're selling like proverbial hot cakes, considering how they're a limited edition from an obscure Chinese company, but I wouldn't expecting them to be languishing on shelves either.

 

We could PM Fang, or just hope this thread catches his eye...

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post #57 of 136
9/18/10 at 3:29am

so yesterday i  got my pair of RE-ZERO's  and i am real excited

 

i got from a fellow member here (dewaver) his burn-in flac files and i started yesterday with the lighter (mostly pink-white non bass-heavy version) flac file

 

i will say some more about the sound when i have some hours behind me since i have heard less than a hour

 

but i need to ask a question the RE-ZERO veterans here

 

have you noticed/heard any sonic differences between the 3 single tips(black) and the 2 double tips(white) ?

 

can anyone say without becoming too technical how these tips change/interfere with sound/bass/mids/isolation etc ?

 

i am gonna try all of them eventually but a 2nd opinion would be really welcome

 

also any tips on burning in ? or should i just listen to them and see them grow ? (i will use the burn-in flac file  when asleep)

 

 

Thank you

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post #58 of 136
9/18/10 at 5:25am

For me, single flange always bring the mid closer, which makes the vocal sweeter and the overall sound warmer, but at the same time reduces the soundstage. Big bi-flange acts the opposite way, add more space but take away a little mid and bass. This is not limited to RE-ZERO but my general observation between single and big bi-flange.

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post #59 of 136
9/18/10 at 8:49am
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It's a little bit different for me. Bi-flange usually increases the sound stage for me which I agree but at the same time it also increases the bass. It's a bit more so with triple flange tips which is what I use with the RE-Zero. I do agree that mids are a bit closer since it is a bit closer with single flange and bi-flange tip. I usually get more isolation with bi-flange tip and very rarely is that not the case.

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post #60 of 136
9/18/10 at 10:11am

The treble boost from the biflanges annoys me and is even fatiguing at times.

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