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post #871 of 996


I believe that's the v3 that will allow it =).  It's been a while but that much I remember considering how awesome that would be.  

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post




The biggest criticism of the V1 was that it only enhanced the lower registers - DigiZoid have claimed from day one that the ZO will improve our experience across the frequency spectrum. Hopefully, we will know soon enough.
 

 



 

post #872 of 996

Well it already does, it's just what untrained ears can't hear. It brings the whole range forward but it brings the whole range pretty much equally forward on lowest/lower contour levels so that what you percieve is no noteworthy balance change or anything. This is how ZO improves the dynamic range. Yes you can't tweak the highs or mids separately but it does bring a change to the whole FR range now too by bringing everything more forward. I've spent way too much time EQing myself so I'm familiar with this kind of change ZO brings.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/17/11 at 4:04pm
post #873 of 996

I really really want to try the Zo with the beyer DT1350, a more full low end is what it needs for me to appreciate it better. 

 

is V2 gonna have volume control?

is it gonna be out this year?

post #874 of 996

Volume control yes. 

Out this year? Should be.

post #875 of 996

Before, I was all messed up on drugs, now I'm all messed up on ZO ....... eek.gif

post #876 of 996

hey estreeter,

 

I can relate,

 

been there and done all of that, and it gets old quick,

 

but now I'm someplace brand new, and doing something even greater, and I'm still there doing that, all messed on free basing ZO that is! deadhorse.gif and oh how sweet it is!

 

must, find, headphones, and unite them with IEM's! and shoot them directly into earcanals! AARG!!

post #877 of 996

i wonder WHY does my speaker sounds...distorted when paired with zo in between my ipod and speaker.

tried it with my audioengine a5 and s8 sub.

and also with the bose music monitor...

 

but im not saying the zo is not good.

it is with my mx980, ue700, fx700 and sr325is.

its not really that good with if used with my speakers.

 

just thinking...

 

(oh, and the zo level is at max)

post #878 of 996
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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post

i wonder WHY does my speaker sounds...distorted when paired with zo in between my ipod and speaker.

tried it with my audioengine a5 and s8 sub.

and also with the bose music monitor...

 

but im not saying the zo is not good.

it is with my mx980, ue700, fx700 and sr325is.

its not really that good with if used with my speakers.

 

just thinking...

 

(oh, and the zo level is at max)



Hmmm.... you shouldn't be having any problems pairing ZO with powered/computer speakers. In fact, we listen to music in our office using ZO and a 2.1 speaker system everyday. Could you provide me with a more detailed description of your setup (including iPod/speaker volume and/or other settings)? Pictures showing the setup would also be very helpful.  

post #879 of 996
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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post

i wonder WHY does my speaker sounds...distorted when paired with zo in between my ipod and speaker.

tried it with my audioengine a5 and s8 sub.

and also with the bose music monitor...

 

but im not saying the zo is not good.

it is with my mx980, ue700, fx700 and sr325is.

its not really that good with if used with my speakers.

 

just thinking...

 

(oh, and the zo level is at max)


Hearing distortion at this level of boot is not surprising, the ZO provides a boost of nearly 12 dB (from dfkt's RMAA figures) at 35 Hz, which means the power is multiplied by 16 at 35 Hz. It's very likely that either the amplifier of your speakers is clipping or the driver itself is struggling against its mechanical limits.
post #880 of 996
Quote:
Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post

i wonder WHY does my speaker sounds...distorted when paired with zo in between my ipod and speaker.

tried it with my audioengine a5 and s8 sub.

and also with the bose music monitor...

 

but im not saying the zo is not good.

it is with my mx980, ue700, fx700 and sr325is.

its not really that good with if used with my speakers.

 

just thinking...

 

(oh, and the zo level is at max)



If the speakers have volume control you should use a LOD to connect the ipod to the ZO, should be a cleaner signal.

post #881 of 996
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Originally Posted by khaos974 View Post

Hearing distortion at this level of boot is not surprising, the ZO provides a boost of nearly 12 dB (from dfkt's RMAA figures) at 35 Hz, which means the power is multiplied by 16 at 35 Hz. It's very likely that either the amplifier of your speakers is clipping or the driver itself is struggling against its mechanical limits.


^ This. Simply lowering the windows volume slider might also help in case it's a case of clipping but if it's speaker amplifier related not giving enough juice (as a 12dB boost at 35Hz would end up eating a lot more) then lowering windows volume slider wouldn't help. But believe me the windows volume slider especially in Vista/Windows 7 can cause clipping/distortion on some setups/amps etc if set too high so you could try lower that one in case it's set to 100% and raise the vol on speaker itself instead. 

 

On my soundcard if set Windows 7 slider to 100% I can't boost anything on the soundcard EQ without it distorting, but if I lower windows volume slider to say 50% I can boost the EQ by like +12dB just fine...


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/19/11 at 7:30am
post #882 of 996
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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post





If the speakers have volume control you should use a LOD to connect the ipod to the ZO, should be a cleaner signal.

 

 

The higher output voltage provided by the LOD will (almost) definitely cause distortion, as the ZO's input was not designed to accept line level signals. In fact, this setup could even cause damage to the ZO.    

Therefore, we don't recommend using a LOD with the ZO (v1) unless you have a volume control cable connected between the LOD and the ZO's input! This way, you can limit the voltage level being provided to the ZO. It is for this very reason that we included volume control on ZO v2 - it will allow you to use a LOD without the need for an extra cable!

 

But anyways, back to the problem at hand...

 

As RPG recommended, the first thing I would try is adjusting the volume on your iPod so that it is about 1/4 of the way up. Then, use your speaker's volume control to get the desired volume: 

 

[ Audio Source --> keep fixed at a lower volume ] ------ [ ZO ] ------ [ Speaker System --> vary level to get desired volume ] 

 

We found this setup to work perfectly whenever using ZO with a player and speaker system that both have volume adjustment. Oh, and don't be surprised if you find yourself almost maxing out the volume on the speaker side... I've done it quite often with no  negative repercussions... yet.   wink_face.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by MizMoxie View Post





Hmmm.... you shouldn't be having any problems pairing ZO with powered/computer speakers. In fact, we listen to music in our office using ZO and a 2.1 speaker system everyday. Could you provide me with a more detailed description of your setup (including iPod/speaker volume and/or other settings)? Pictures showing the setup would also be very helpful.  



yes, that's what i thought.

there should have been NO problem with the sound.

because it was stated that it can be use with speakers.

anyway, my set up is:

 

IPOD CLASSIC + 3.5mm interconnect + ZO + powered speakers (audioengine a5 and s8)

 

sorry, cant provide anymore pics, because i already sold that speakers.

i recently bought a zep by bowers and wilkins to replace my bookshelf speakers.

 

from what i remember...my ipod's volume was at MAXIMUM level, and ZO's level is at MAX too...

and im only controlling volume from the speaker itself.

 

 

post #884 of 996

^well, now i see where i went wrong with my set up.

my mistake.

 

so ipod's volume should be set at 1/4 only...

thanks for the help.

 

i should try that with my BOSE MUSIC MONITOR!

post #885 of 996
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Originally Posted by pinoyman View Post

^well, now i see where i went wrong with my set up.

my mistake.

 

so ipod's volume should be set at 1/4 only...

thanks for the help.

 

i should try that with my BOSE MUSIC MONITOR!

 

Just to clarify...start with your ipod's volume at 1/4. But if the output sounds weak even with the speaker system's volume maxed, slowly increase the player's volume (while decreasing the speaker system's volume) until the sound output is sufficient, but not causing distortion.

 

( I hope that wasn't too confusing! )
 

 

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