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post #121 of 406
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Originally Posted by MBM85 View Post

But you can't judge the HARX700's as a $30 closed back headphone, because they sound like a much more expensive headphone. I've never heard them, but I'll assume this is what all the fuss is about them. 



Can I judge them? I mean, I own them and all.

 

 

First off they are NOT closed back...

 

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Second, they sound like $30 and nothing more. These phones have just gone to prove to me that people are brand sheep and it's sad.

 

Even after mods the bass is bloated and not punchy at all and creeps into the mids and the highs are sibilant and grating as hell. *blech*

 

If the above sounds like your cup of tea then you may love the JVC's. However, if you would like some real HI-END phones for $30 then buy the Maxell's - I swear to God that they **** stomp the JVC's in every single category.

post #122 of 406
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Too many people said that the Maxell's break after a couple months of use, and that is kind of a concern to me.  =/

 

I think at this point I might be ready to rule out the JVC HARX and leave it down to the Superlux HD681 or Koss PortaPro.

 

I really would like a headphone that covers my ears.  So if you or anyone knows about the Superlux HD681 bass quality, I might be ready to decide on those.


Edited by trancetunes - 7/24/10 at 3:12pm
post #123 of 406

Brand sheep? I didn't know JVC was so well regarded in the Hi-Fi world. My comment was based on all the attention they have gotten, but I've never tried them myself so I don't know how good thay actually are.

post #124 of 406

Too many? Please tell me that you're not going by the idiots on Amazon who arew doing God-knows-what with there phones...

 

 

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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

I noticed the reviews before I bought them so I got two pairs - one to test and one to reinforce with brush-on truck-bed liner if necessary.

 

 

 

No need. I just repost what I sent someone inquiring about these in a PM...

 

 

"...the claims about their fragility are highly overstated. When I first got these I intended on doing a review of them and I had heard so much on Amazon about them just spontaneously breaking and what-not that I decided to do a test. When I got them I actually threw them on the ground two times a day for like two weeks to see where the stress point would be. Well, not only did they not break or crack but there wasn't even so much as a freaking scratch on them. I'll tell you what, my Sennheiser HD238 portables would never stand up to such punishment and I paid $70 for them on sale at Best Buy. They are not the toughest things around but just be semi-careful with them and don't stuff them in a packed drawer and slam it closed and you should be good."

 

 

Frankly, I've got to wonder what some of these guys on Amazon are doing with their phones. These guys are definitely not audiophiles treating these phones in such a manner that they would break so quickly. They don't even mention that all the cables are covered with a semi-hard cloth braided sleeving that makes them tough as nails.

 

 

 

Seriously, take those Amazon reviews with a grain of salt. I've had mine for a couple of months now with ZERO problems... Even the ones I was tossing on the ground are in great shape believe it or not. Again, these are not beater phones but they're not going to just fall apart in your hands like some of those reviews suggest.

 



 

 

And another Head-Fier that bought these off my recommendation...

 

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Originally Posted by Duncandun View Post

After reading a thread on these cans a few weeks ago, I decided I'd take the plunge and try them out. I needed a portable anyway, and I thought "what the hell, couldn't be that bad."

 

Well, I'm glad I was right. 

 

I've had them less than a day so far, so not much burn in. So far I'm impressed, They seem to be everything I was hoping for (and a bit more).

 

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Build Quality

So, I think my largest concern was the build quality of these phones prior to receiving them. The reivews on Amazon were quite negative primarily for their build quality(breaking, etc). However, Olimoronio tried to still my fears that they would fall apart in my hands after unboxing them. After finally receiving them I have to say I'm impressed. At the pricepoint of $31 these headphones are decently built. The plastic feels a little bit flimsy, and if you swivel the cans at the same time (holding one in each hand) You may get the feeling that they are about to break in half, but after excising this thoroughly, I can say with 99% certainty that they wont. Otherwise, they seem pretty standard... glossy plastic shell on the outside of the can with matte plastic elsewhere. inside of the plastic headband and connecting arms is some metal. The included cords are sheathed in a fine cloth mesh, and terminate in a initially malable plastic case that then terminates into a larger hard plastic case, I like the cords. It also included a similarly clothed extension/1/4th adapter cable that is about 3 feet long and ends with a 1/4th inch plug. I would have rather these cans have a modular connector on the headphone itself. Overall I'm impressed considering the price, they don't hold a flame to something like the HD-25 (in terms of build quality anyway) but then again what does?

 

Comfort

The first thing I noticed as I picked them up was how light they are. I don't know exactly how much they weigh but I can say they are certainly the lightest portables I've ever held, lighter than the HD-25 II, and MDR-V150 (which were the only portables I could compare them to currently). The next thing I noticed as I slipped them on was the lack of clamping force, Perhaps this is why they are so light? Lacking all of the metals and springs or what ever causes headphones to clam your head like a vice. I actually enjoy this as it makes them considerably more comfortable. The ear pads are pretty standard pleathery cushion material stuff. With the lack of clamping force they provide a comfortable cushion and have enough depth to keep the drivers from resting on my ears. They also fit my ears almost perfectly, with my dangly earlobes the only thing not encircled by the cans. The headband has a decent cushion on both the under and overside (for some reason, I wouldn't think a cushion would be necessary on the top). Overall these cans are very non-fatiguing in the comfort department. No ear sweating, no abrasive driver ear bleeding, no ear hematomas due to clamp.

 

 

Isolation

This one will be short. They don't isolate well. On my Sansa Fuze with the volume at about 30% I can't hear myself typing this. However, turn the music off and I can hear the clickity clack quite well. However considering the 30% volume of the music and that I imagine myself listening to music when these are infact over my ears, I doubt this will present much of a problem. Unless your working in a construction yard, I doubt you will get much disturbance from your environment when actually listening to music. That said, they do not isolate well, due to the lack of clamp (which is a good trade, In my mind).

 

Sound

So, On to the good stuff eh? Out of the box these headphones impressed me. I don't have a massive array of headphones to compare them to or even a bunch, just a few. Literally. With that said though they impressed me. Moreso than my recently purchased Superlux HD-668b another hi-fi budget buy. With little to no burning they were outshining my fullsized HD-668b's as well (in overall performance) my recently departed SR325IS and my old battle standard Senn HD485's. They're fairly neutral though not overly so. The bass is impressive, punchy, wide and reaching but not bloated or over extended. They're clear, though not fatiguing in anyway. highs were pretty much on par with the mids and bass, though something about the bass is better than both... but it doesn't step on any toes, if you catch my drift.

 

Soundstage, What does it mean? Who coined this phrase? Why does it have to be said? These portables don't have a very wide soundstage which is not surprising because they are portables. Listening to Jonsi's Go was a pleasure with the Maxell DHP-II. The winds were not lost in the overwhelming bass and electric noise in this song towards the end. I could still clearly hear them. Which is a good sign as they lose definition with the HD485s, the HD668bs produce them quite well also but the bass loses focus with them, I wont compare them to the Grados as that wouldn't be fair because it's not part of the Grado sound. Oh wait yes I will, the SR325is bled my ears figuratively with this song.Onward, Sleigh Bells - Run the Heart is equally pleasurable with these phones. Everything is nice and clear, bass isn't overbearing but feels good. Vocals aren't muddied amongst the ridiculous bass, random guitar riffs and blasty hiphop beats. Radiohead - Exit Music (For a film) sounds great. the acoustic guitar isn't lost in the boosted vocals, you can hear the mistakes and the fingers moving along the strings. It's exciting, to say the least. Frontier Ruckus's - Rosemount sounds great, the bass is very well represented, all the instruments (jar, saw, guitar, banjo, bass, drums, vocals) are clear. Can even make out the ghostly female backups breathing, in between their creepy ooohing. The breakdown felt good, the bass being the most important part in the song. It makes an impact. The Marked Men - I Must Be Dead, from their newest album Ghost (I heartily recommend this album to anyone who enjoys good rock and roll.) doesn't lose any of its Garage recording sound, these phones don't make anything seem more focused or clear than it should (as the HD668bs do, which kind of messes up the sound of this band). It's pure, fun, punchy,  punk rock. Thank you Maxell DHP-II, for providing this service to my ears.

 

Overall I'd say these headphones offer surprisingly good sound, comparable if not better than my other headphones, The bass rivals my HD485s but does so without getting drunk and vomiting all over the mids and highs as my poor 485s do.

 

All listening was done through my Sansa Fuze and or my computer, with no noticeable difference in sound quality between either source. I doubt there would be much of a noticeable difference if ran through an amplifier, but this is just speculation as I don't have one in my possession to test this theory. All music was either lossless or 320KBS save for my radiohead tracks which are 192kbs.

 

 

Value

This is an important category, as It's kind of like a conclusion. Value determining the intangible value that is perhaps worth more than the cost to purchase which is what budget Hi-fi is all about.

 

I'd like to say that these phones perform better than most I have heard in the sub $160 price range, full-size or not. Only being beaten by the HD25-II and the Shure 840, which isn't quite as fun sounding as these are, in my opinion. Offered at as cheaply as $31 measly dollars (shipped even!) on amazon, these headphones are incredible at this price tag. The only thing keeping me from saying I would purchase them if they were 160 dollars (besides that I couldn't afford them) is the build quality, which would perhaps be lackluster at that price point.

 

Overall these phones are incredibly worth buying and I implore anyone looking for a new portable or if you just want some new cans to listen to, to drop by amazon and pick up a pair of these. I don't think you will be disappointed. 

 

go forth and purchase http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VSBPEG/ref=oss_product , they're cheapest from seller Common Star. Which offered them at $31 shipped, I received them in 8 days from the purchase date (with Independence day weekend in the middle of it all, so I assume it'd be faster if it were on a monday perhaps).

 

Signed, with love

 

duncandun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

post #125 of 406
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Originally Posted by MBM85 View Post

Brand sheep? I didn't know JVC was so well regarded in the Hi-Fi world. My comment was based on all the attention they have gotten, but I've never tried them myself so I don't know how good thay actually are.



 

They are very well regarded from budget to hi-end they are widely lauded. I mean, go listen to the HORRIBLE AWFUL, TERRIBLE JVC Marshmallow IEM's. I saw one guy on here refer to them as "little miracles." Ughhh... I thought I had something in my eye and was reading it wrong but no such luck.

 

 

 

 

 

btw.gif I realize that you haven't heard of them yet and wasn't really referring to you at all. I'm more referring to the folks who buy the JVC's and defend them with their last breath but wouldn't come near the FAR superior Maxell's because... they say Maxell on the side of 'em.


Edited by Olimoronio - 7/24/10 at 4:40pm
post #126 of 406
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Originally Posted by Duncandun View Post





 

 

Sound

So, On to the good stuff eh? Out of the box these headphones impressed me. I don't have a massive array of headphones to compare them to or even a bunch, just a few. Literally. With that said though they impressed me. Moreso than my recently purchased Superlux HD-668b another hi-fi budget buy. With little to no burning they were outshining my fullsized HD-668b's as well (in overall performance) my recently departed SR325IS and my old battle standard Senn HD485's. They're fairly neutral though not overly so. The bass is impressive, punchy, wide and reaching but not bloated or over extended. They're clear, though not fatiguing in anyway. highs were pretty much on par with the mids and bass, though something about the bass is better than both... but it doesn't step on any toes, if you catch my drift.

post #127 of 406

Oh just one more thing about the fragility of the Maxells. I have two pairs; I have had them both for over two months now and have not had one problem with either.

 

Now here's the kicker - I am a big guy - I am 6'4" and weigh 270 lbs. I toss and turn a lot at night. I have broken several phones sleeping in them. I HAVE BEEN SLEEPING IN ONE PAIR OF THESE MAXELL PHONES SINCE I BOUGHT THEM AND THEY ARE AS GOOD AS NEW.

 

 

Now you can believe me, treat your phones with a modicum of respect and have something that performs WAY above its price point or you can believe the neanderthals on Amazon and settle for less. dunno.gif It's up to you.

post #128 of 406
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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post


They are very well regarded from budget to hi-end they are widely lauded. I mean, go listen to the HORRIBLE AWFUL, TERRIBLE JVC Marshmallow IEM's. I saw one guy on here refer to them as "little miracles." Ughhh... I thought I had something in my eye and was reading it wrong but no such luck.

 

btw.gif I realize that you haven't heard of them yet and wasn't really referring to you at all. I'm more referring to the folks who buy the JVC's and defend them with their last breath but wouldn't come near the FAR superior Maxell's because... they say Maxell on the side of 'em.

 

Marshmallows were basically on their own a couple years ago in their price range. It doesn't surprise me that people who aren't "in" gush over them. Was that recently? I think I recall swtcheater or whatever praise them, after modding them.

 

And nope. I've (and many others) bought a few JVC things and don't praise them. They aren't really widely lauded in comparison to a lot of other brands.. They do have their moments. You have to admit that the DX700/1000s are cool. Along with the FX500/700.

 

And dude...see the edit button? Right there?
 


Edited by Ishcabible - 7/24/10 at 4:48pm
post #129 of 406

Yeah, I see the edit button just fine. New subjects, new posts. Nothing wrong with bumping up a topic of interest.

 

And I have not pointed the finger at anyone so why is everyone acting so... guilty? Those brand snobs I speak of know who they are. No need to defen yourself if you are not one of them.

 

post #130 of 406

JVC budget headphone snobs? That's a new one. But seriously, I don't think many people on here own or have heard of the Maxells, and that's the reason they aren't being talked about. It's not because of the name brand. 

post #131 of 406
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Originally Posted by Olimoronio View Post

Yeah, I see the edit button just fine. New subjects, new posts. Nothing wrong with bumping up a topic of interest.

 

And I have not pointed the finger at anyone so why is everyone acting so... guilty? Those brand snobs I speak of know who they are. No need to defen yourself if you are not one of them.

 

 

Hah, sorry, it was just a bit annoying to see multiple posts.

 

And it's just the first time I've seen the term "JVC fanboys" and thought it was a bit strange.
 

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Originally Posted by MBM85 View Post

JVC budget headphone snobs? That's a new one. But seriously, I don't think many people on here own or have heard of the Maxells, and that's the reason they aren't being talked about. It's not because of the name brand. 

 

That's basically the only reason we aren't recommending them. I'm sure they're great, but we'd feel terrible if they weren't up to snuff and just a product of new headphone-itis.
 

post #132 of 406

I'm just saying that I go through more phones in this price-range than your average joe on this forum because I like to test a lot of unknowns out and see if I can find a new budget champ like the KSC75. Well, I have about 300 or so such phones, most of which get a solid frown from me upon hearing and quickly end up in the ol junk drawer and I never even mention them on this forum.

 

What have I actually recommended?

 

Coby CV-185

Auvio 33-279 Concert Class

Auvio CH102 Retro (strictly for rock ONLY!)

Nippon America CD-5500

Select Sentry IEM's as a dirt cheap ($5) alternative to the HORRIBLE Marshmallows

Maxell DHP ii

And a couple of others that I can't recall right now.

 

Out of these only the Maxell is on the level of the KSC75 for bang for your buck and as a matter of fact, IMO, it exceeds the KSC.

 

I asked ljokerl to review the Maxell's in his Portable Headphones Comparison/Shootout and he agreed. It should be coming very soon. I'd suggest the OP wait for that review/comparison to make his decision.

 


Edited by Olimoronio - 7/24/10 at 7:07pm
post #133 of 406
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Originally Posted by MBM85 View Post

JVC budget headphone snobs? That's a new one. But seriously, I don't think many people on here own or have heard of the Maxells, and that's the reason they aren't being talked about. It's not because of the name brand. 



And why pray tell haven't they heard of them? You think I'd have this hard a time recommending a great phone if it had JVC stamped on the side of it? Really? REALLY???

post #134 of 406

But, JVC have a reputation of making quality budget headphones. I don't think most would even know Maxell made headphones, let alone great ones, so that's just the way it goes. If |joker| priases them then they'll get more attention. 

 

I think you're making a bit too much of this. I mean, the Superlux headphones are getting a little notice, and I'm sure it's not because of the brand name. 
 

post #135 of 406
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I'm not in a position to say either way. You won't get rich, deep bass (well, by most of our standards) at this price range to be frank. It's spendy to get good deep bass instead of loose bass.



lol No it's not! 09.gif

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