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post #91 of 220
8/2/10 at 3:30am

Just saw it last night.  Holy crap.  Amazing.  So wonderful to have a smart sci-fi movie with a "real" story. 

 

Inception is definitely Movie of the Year for me.

 

-Ed

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post #92 of 220
8/2/10 at 3:52am

I cant remember a top box office hollywood movie that I enjoyed anywere near this movie. Fantastic action movie that is very creative and arty at the same time.

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post #93 of 220
8/2/10 at 3:53am

movie of the year? so far yes, any movies that you guys want to see in the future?

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post #94 of 220
8/2/10 at 8:01am

Whoa 10 replies since I last visited the thread. I see a few more supposed elaborations on the negative criticisms, but all of it is really just a rehash of prior points that have already been addressed with sound arguments that have been conveniently avoided.

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post #95 of 220
8/2/10 at 10:27am

And to think all this could have been avoided if movie theaters only gave refunds to unsatisfied viewer. I know I would have been a lot less pissed off if I had't dropped $35 taking the family.  I think what's also gotten me on a roll is some knuckleheads comparing the film the "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Citizen Kane". Come on! Talk about Flavor of the Month syndrome. Don't @#$% with "2001" around me, that's for sure. Oh well, this will always happen. Just stretch your mind back three months ago when "Avatar" was the second coming for all these kids....

 

 

But "film of the year" I guess we'll see at Oscar time. So far wehave : Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story 3, Shrek Forever After, Iron Man 2, The Twilight Saga: Eclipse, Clash of the Titans, How to Train Your Dragon, Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, Robin Hood, Shutter Island, Sex and the City 2, Kick-Ass and Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief. Inception, Valentine's Day, Despicable Me, Salt, and The Book of Eli.

 

 

Hm, it has been a pretty crappy year for films, at that. Look at that list, scarcely one film that isn't aimed at the teen set. No wonder a little pseudo-intellectural sci fi popcorn-burner seems like the second coming. I think my vote so far is for Toy Stoy 3, but that gets shuffled off into the animation category. Hence the brilliance of creating that special category...''

 

 

However, the year is young. Coming up to bat:

 

 

 

  • Twelve
         Hannover House
  • Logan
         Real Bean Entertainment
  • Devil
         Universal Pictures
  • Howl
         Oscilloscope Laboratories
  • Bagman
         Metropolitan (MTA)
  • Stone
         Overture Films
  • Vision
         Zeitgeist Films
  • Red
         Summit Entertainment
  • Skyline
         Universal Pictures
  • Tangled
         Walt Disney Pictures
  • Tangled
         Walt Disney Pictures
  • Miral
         The Weinstein Co.
  • 1981
         Film Movement
  • Conan
         Lionsgate
  • Legacy
         CodeBlack Entertainment
  • Poetry
         Kino International

 

 

 

Frankly, I'm waiting for the Cohen Brothers remake of "True Grit" with Jeff Bridges...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by chadbang - 8/2/10 at 11:04am
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post #96 of 220
8/2/10 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post

Just saw it last night.  Holy crap.  Amazing.  So wonderful to have a smart sci-fi movie with a "real" story. 

 

Inception is definitely Movie of the Year for me.

 

-Ed

 

 

x2

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post #97 of 220
8/2/10 at 3:32pm

Saw it during opening week.  Only downside to me was the predictability of some of the twists.  But overall I loved it.  Just went to see it again last night at the imax at navy pier in chicago.  Wow.  definitely best of the year.  I know it may be FOTM, but I know a lot of people rearranging their "favorite movies" list to incorporate this.  Me included.

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post #98 of 220
8/2/10 at 4:34pm

I really enjoyed it but it def. had faults, as do all movies. Nothing is perfect. To me it was a tad to long in that it was lingering a little bit. If it was shaved down 20 minutes less it still would of reached the same purpose as the director intended. Another grip is how it seems nolan is bad with dealing with woman in his movie, memento as well as batman. As a result, the core of the plot, the love story between dicaprio and his wife didnt work. I just didnt really care about it.

 

Also would of enjoyed if there was more abstractiveness due to how thats how dreams are, there pretty crazy. For instance I think it would of fit in well if there was random things and  people popping up and the character have to hide them from cilian murphys character to prevent a blown cover. Like when they go into the hotel room there happens to be a naked old fat woman laughing in the other room and quickly they have to dispose of here so fischer subconscious doesnt get alerted. 

 

But dont get me wrong, thought it was a great action movie and yet was arty as well as quite clever. Very refreshing to see a top boxoffice action movie that isn't a assault on ones senses as well as there intelligence. 

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post #99 of 220
8/2/10 at 4:36pm
fuseboxx, "Jackass 3D" ought to have a livlier script and better character development than "Inception."

Conveniently avoiding arguments? I don't think you were paying attention. Go read some classic books, watch some classic movies and watch "Inception" again in about ten years. You'll wonder what you were thinking.
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post #100 of 220
8/2/10 at 5:08pm

well I have read and seen many great books/movies . I understand the importance of character development. Beside from the woman in the movie (not being sexist, nolan cant seem to do womans characters right0z) , I kinda cared for the characters. There was character development, but was done in a different way. I give you it wasnt done in a deeply matter as you get a sense of the character on assumptions, there actions, and witty lines. But this isnt citizen cane here. I think you have so much against this movie due to its immense popularity. I would be interested in how your perceive it in 10 years when you watch it again .

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post #101 of 220
8/2/10 at 6:09pm


 

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fuseboxx, "Jackass 3D" ought to have a livlier script and better character development than "Inception."

Conveniently avoiding arguments? I don't think you were paying attention. Go read some classic books, watch some classic movies and watch "Inception" again in about ten years. You'll wonder what you were thinking.


This shows that you were the one who was clearly not paying attention since I've already said previously that I've seen tons of classic movies. Maybe even more than you since it looks like you're concentrated only on the AFI list... IDK.

 

Jackass 3D? LOL. Now that's just trolling. For shame.

 

A couple of things you conveniently stepped over were these:

 

 

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How can you say that you don't know anything about Cobb? He has a wife that died because of something he did and he's trapped with this guilt. He has two children that he desperately wants to see; so desperate to the point that he's willing to sacrifice the well-being of his teammates because he's so obsessed to clear his name and reunite with his kids. And throughout the film, he does this juggling act between what is real and what is not... but at the end accepts the reality he's presented with regardless if he's in reality or he's in a dream.
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Why do some people think that great films have to explore great themes and give insight into life? At the very minimum, Inception at least deals with our perception of truth and dealing with reality. It is so important for us to grasp what is real, even if the dream is so much better? Would Mal and Cobb have been better off growing old in limbo instead of being kicked back to a grim reality? Does it matter in the end if you're in reality or in a dream if you're genuinely happy?

 

 

In your reply all you said was: 1) The plot was flimsy and boring; 2) How Inception was different from Star Wars and Alien (another convenient argument, btw, but I'll let it slide); 3) It will not be a classic. Nothing that directly addresses the points I make above.

 

And as for chadbang stepping over things in a similiar manner, I was interested in how he'd reply to this since his major gripe was the plausibility of it all:

 

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It explained and showed as much as what was needed. When watching sci-fi films featuring shuttles in outer space, do you need to know everything about how and why they got there to legitimize the plausibility of it all? Or what the milk-like substance was that Ash was drinking and filled wiith in Alien? Or how Ripley was supposed to survive 57 years in hypersleep for the sequel?? Does an in-depth exploration of the Ludovico technique need to be discussed in order to make its use credible in A Clockwork Orange? Did you need to have a summary of how the components of the DeLorean worked in order to make Back To The Future more enjoyable? Maybe a study of detailed history Androids to heighten the experience of watching Blade Runner? In viewing any sci-fi film, there surely has to be this amount of suspension of disbelief because it's science-fiction ffs. Who is even there to say about these things being implausible? We're talking about stories fueled by scientific innovations that are merely imagined. All the writer and director have to do is explain as much as is needed to drive the story. This is one of the things that Inception does exceptionally well and the film goes on to discuss a lot of related elements about dreaming throughout the film.

Edited by fuseboxx - 8/2/10 at 6:13pm
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post #102 of 220
8/2/10 at 11:58pm

The reason why all those things don't matter - the "white stuff inside Ash? Android antifreeze?; the "Ludovico technique"? Try watching 30 porn movies and WWII documentaries in a row and you'll know how it works; how Ripley suvives for 57 years. Suspended animation? Sequel Syndrome?; the Delorean - a flux capacitor, silly -- the reason why they don't matter is because the entire films don't hinge on the believeabilty or mechanism of these details. They're little parts of films that are great because of vital elements missing in Inception. Inception had no humor, no characters and a shell of a story, but it had one big concept to sell it: The Mission Impossible team jumps into your brain. I couldn't take that idea seriously in a film that took itself so seriously.. The only scene I bought was when the "architect" slipped into Leonardo DiCaprio's dream where she rode the elevator up and down and found his wife tucked away. There was something surreal about that scene and highly personal that worked. Yes, perhaps I can see one person slipping to into anothers subconscious -- and if they did, it would be a highly emotional, very personal and surreal experience for that other person (again, I'll mention the J-Lo movie "The Cell.")  But I certainly dont' buy a team of commandos leaping into someone's brain like the A-Team en masse to plant an idea in someone's head via this grand (and rather stupid) heist caper.  It was just beyond ridiculous. That's what I mean when I say I never bought the concept. It was so idiotic, how could I?  My 15 year old daughter loves and watches Dr. Who - it's thought-provoking stuff for her.  Sorry but when you get to be my age, that sort of silliness isnt even worth your time -  but I suppose some people will swallow anything once the lights go down.. Start Trek was thought-provoking when I was 12. Now I laugh at it's corny plots.  That's how Inception played to me, sort of, well, stupid and silly. The last 1/3 or the film was just insultingly brainless to me, I was in pain trying to sit through it.. But I suppose at that point I was supposed to be thinking "Oh, cool, look at these guys chasing each other upside down on the ceiling! Awesome!" Instead I was thinking, "Why am I watching this?"


Edited by chadbang - 8/3/10 at 12:20am
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post #103 of 220
8/3/10 at 12:47am

Voicing my support for Chad and Erik. I too came away from the movie feeling as though I had just taken in a piece of candy, sweet but empty calories.

 

I gave the movie an 8/10 because I did enjoy the experience of watching it. This movie left me with nothing to think about, which is strange considering it's supposed to be a mental thriller. I seriously had more thought provocation from the original Matrix than this movie. I walked out of the door to the theater and felt there was nothing else to consider. I got in my car and forgot all about the movie I'd just watched. I saw The Sorcerer's Apprentice earlier that same day and thought about it on the way home, not so with Inception.

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post #104 of 220
8/3/10 at 3:26am

So you guys are saying that because Inception took itself too seriously, that you couldn't?

 

BTW, I thought that the original Matrix was extremely thought-provoking. Quite a few books have been written about the philosophical angles of that movie.

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post #105 of 220
8/3/10 at 4:41am

I loved the movie. It's certainly not going to go down as an all-time classic, but it was a solid two (and a half) hours of entertainment for me. And entertainment is usually what I aim for when I go to the movies.

 

Definitely a fun flick

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