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post #31 of 34
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Originally Posted by Yoga Flame View Post

Thanks for the responses guys. I think I get it now.

 

Headphones run on DC in that the polarity on the wires does not change. And the current is always only running in one direction. Up through the L + R wires and back down through the shared ground. But there is still "alternating" happening, in that the voltage rises and falls rapidly to create vibrations in the headphone drivers.

 

So does the same thing happen in conventional speakers too? (Meaning that I was wrong about them being AC.) I've read some comments about powerful headphone amps being able to drive some speakers directly.

No, all audio devices transmit, amplify, shape, and or transduce audio waveforms.  Headphones are transducers.  They convert an electrical audio waveform/signal into sound pressure level fluctuations in the atmosphere.  All audio waveforms/signals are AC.

 

Electrostatic headphones also need a DC bias voltage (typically 300-500vdc) present on the stators, which is analogous to the permanent magnets in dynamic headphones. The constantly fluctuating audio signal works against the constant magnetic or electrostatic force to move the diaphragm, and subsequently, the air to produce sound.
 

Common ground:

An AC signal, by definition fluctuates above and below 0 volts.  In order for current to flow, and subsequently work to be done, takes two conductors.  What is referred to as the "ground" circuit is really the return path for those electrons,  The common ground carries the return path for both left and right channels.  For the practical purposes of this discussion, it is not an issue to use a common return path.

 

Think of the whole affair as two water wheels, each one being turned independently by independent streams of water fron two tributaries.  As the water flows over the wheels, producing work, the run off from each wheel is dumped into a single larger stream that has the capacity to carry off the runoff from both of the smaller streams, without backing up.

 

If there were no place for the water to go from either stream, no work would be done and we would have a flooded mess on our hands.  ;-)  

post #32 of 34

 

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Originally Posted by xnor View Post


If it does, then yes it could damage your speakers. Just try it out! Use a loopback cable to record the soundcard's output. If you're on windows ensure that the "DC offset cancellation" option is disabled for your recording device (line-in).


Let's keep it theoretical, I'm a bit lazy to try this out right now. tongue.gif


It is supposed to filter out DC after this stage (after the DAC, I believe?), correct? So it shouldn't reproduce it? Unless of course it's poorly designed and doesn't filter it at all...

post #33 of 34

A transducer cannot reproduce DC.  No such thing as a DC audio signal.

 

DC offset present in the output of an amplifier, if direct coupled, can destroy speakers, or at least offset the con position so as to create the possibility of non linear distortions, and greatly limit maximum dynamic range.  

 

If an amp was capable of producing a 30 volt swing across an output load (eg. speaker) with a 5v DC offset you would be throwing away 17% of the amplifier's power and limiting your dynamic range potential by the same.  On top of all of this, you could be damaging the speaker's voice coil both by heat and mechanical destruction of the voice coil former as it bottoms out against the magnet basket containment.

post #34 of 34
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Originally Posted by Vitor Machado View Post

Sorry I'm digging out this thread, but I have a simple question:

 

So, if I click "play" to this signal, am I gonna cause damage to my speakers?

 

soundsignal.png

(made this on Soundforge)

 

This is a DC current, right? Is my soundcard really going to output a DC signal if I play this?


Most likely not because most soundcard outputs are capacitively coupled to eliminate the possibility of DC offset in the output. 

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