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 Hi guys,

 I've been a lurker for quite a few months, but i decided to register on the
 forums today :) some of you guys are quite a friendly bunch (from surfing
 around earlier).

 I'm just a little curious (actually very, very intrigued) though. I was
 searching for a old thread i read some time back on the forum via google and
 i spotted that that this site** is worth *$7,373,520* from this url
 http://www.protrackr.com/www.head-fi.org/<http://www.protrackr.com/www.head-fi.org/?
 Seriously? that's pretty damn impressive in my books. Must be you guys
 posting everyday and contributing. anyway, just thought you guys might want
 to know... yes i heard web 2.0 and community is priceless but that's
 errrr... is seriously wild. I wonder if it was calculated like a dollar a
 post or something.

 ok i gotta fix my sig... so much for being tech stupid.

 regards,
 Jeb

 

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I've been a lurker

 

 

 

Is it a job?

 

 

 

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this site** is worth *$7,373,520* 

 

Considering the limited release headphones that was released here in Headfi. Like the HF2 small amount goes to headfi for each headphone and check out the sponsors , click ads, meets.. Everything is funded one big happy family.


Edited by sanakaku - 7/16/10 at 3:33pm
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Until someone brings up cables.

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I cant seem to get away from those threads!


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Fortunately I happen to be pursuing an MS in Finance and am a complete finance nerd. Let me explain how they can get that number. :)

 

I reversed engineered the assumptions they are using through shear guess and check (it was my second guess, lol). You can get a value of $7,373,520 by assuming a net profit margin of 70%, a growth rate of 0%, and a required rate of return of 10% per year. 

 

Here's how they could calculate it: Assume HeadFi is making $87,780 in sales per month

 

Multiply that number by 12 to get annual sales of $1,053,360.

 

Now, HeadFi has expenses it needs to pay from that revenue. Through shear guessing I found they could be assuming that 70% of revenue becomes profit. 

 

So, now you have profits equal to 70% of $1,053,360 ...or $737,352 per year (and expenses of roughly $300,000 per year). 

 

Now...how much will an investor pay for the 

$737,352 per year HeadFi allegedly generates? If the investor requires a return of 10% per year - and assumes 0% earnings growth per year - the investor will pay $737,352/0.10....which equals the magic $7,373,520. Alternatively, you can the increase the required return up to 11% and earnings growth up to 1% and get the same answer (or [12%, 2%], [13%, 3%]....basically anything that makes the denominator equal to 0.1....search for the Gordon Growth Formula if you really want to know).

 

Keep in mind that a model is only as good as the assumptions/inputs. I'm oversimplifying due to limited information (and posting space, lol). I'm very skeptical that HeadFi makes $87,780 in sales per month. Also, net margins of 70% seems aggressive and earnings growth of 0% seems conservative. Similarly, I'd think an investor would require returns MUCH higher than 10% per year to compensate for the riskiness of HeadFi's advertisement model. If I had to guess I think $7 million is a bit excessive.

 

Hope that helps!

 

EDIT: Okay, their methodology is crack. It values Rotten Tomatoes at $3 million. Hmm....so Jude can sell HeadFi, buy Rotten Tomatoes, and still have $4 million leftover? I'd don't think so. Also it values Amazon.com at $151 million...when the stock market currently has it trading at $53 BILLION. It lists Google.com at $2 billion when the market has it at $146 billion.


Edited by Czilla9000 - 7/16/10 at 11:07pm
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Whoa whoa whoa, I think that some random website is a more accurate gauge of worth than the stodgy old stock market.

post #7 of 7

I think they're calculating how much money our poor wallets are cumulatively missing.

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