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post #1936 of 2502

新332.41jpg.jpgPut 25W1K resistance is restored.

post #1937 of 2502
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Originally Posted by xmdkq View Post

新332.41jpg.jpgPut 25W1K resistance is restored.

Since this post is from the Boss, I am guessing that this comment is meant for me. I understand the 25W power resistor is the one to be changed. I am waiting for you to send me the parts. You were nice enough to offer the parts for free if I pay for the EMS freight. Very nice offer. I will happily pay the freight. Just email me with the price. Thanks for your help!

 

Which of the two 25W resistors is for the left channel? The one on the right or the one on the left?

post #1938 of 2502
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Originally Posted by WALL-E View Post

I agree a little bit with what he500 thread believes talking about power full SS amps as a better suit for the planar magnetic headphones but with few exceptions 337/339, the he500 realy can be driven by those two amp to its best ofering something "special" for what we like the tube amps and what is almost impossible to achieve the same with SS amp. Btw my SS, 4 Watts Burson Conductor which cost more then twice as much as lf339 can't drive the he 500 to its best, I am talking about the power about the dynamic about the bass hit. That why I using it for most of my time as a digital sours I can admit that DAC section of Burson Conductor is better from everything I've heard so far and combination with lf339 is excellent.

 

 

 

out of topic, hmm....maybe not 
private listening session in my home with the guy who built this prototype

Liked the read so much thanks for sharing Wall-E! Seems like the HE500 with 339 is divine ^^. When I'll have some more dough (i just invested in some electrostatic headphones...) I will get me those HE500!

post #1939 of 2502

A friend of mine is making me some new adapters for the 339. I'll be able to use the magical C3G tube as input tube in stead of the 6J4P:

 

http://www.jacmusic.com/nos/C3g-C3m-info.html

 

I already use them in my 300b amp

 

 

 

 

the 6SJ7 is: Vf 6.3 Volts / If 0.3 Ampere / Indirect /

the C3G is: Vf 6.3 Volts / If 0.37 Ampere / Indirect / Parallel, (AC/DC) /

 

Would that be an issue?

 

thanks!

post #1940 of 2502
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

A friend of mine is making me some new adapters for the 339. I'll be able to use the magical C3G tube as input tube in stead of the 6J4P:

 

http://www.jacmusic.com/nos/C3g-C3m-info.html

 

I already use them in my 300b amp

 

 

 

 

the 6SJ7 is: Vf 6.3 Volts / If 0.3 Ampere / Indirect /

the C3G is: Vf 6.3 Volts / If 0.37 Ampere / Indirect / Parallel, (AC/DC) /

 

Would that be an issue?

 

thanks!

 

I think no one knows the answer Ultrainferno until you check it and share with us.Design of the input stage lf339 forces the triode connection to be honest it is not just a normal penthode to triode operations mode it is a very rare variety of it called Grounded Plate Type this complicates, the data sheet not showing any info about that particular mode. In general, the idea is to get a very low noise at lower current than normal  using screen as anode, with anode (plate) earthed as shield. The plate, being at ground potential, does not attract electrons (in fact, it acts as a shield against stray external fields). The resulting triode is quite linear and works well at low signal levels. What worries me is the high gain of C3g but triode mode significantly reduce it i guess.

 

good luck

post #1941 of 2502

I want to update my situation with my dead La Figaro amp. I have been a member of this community for some time and I respect that we all share our experience in an effort to help each other. It's in that spirit that I share this information. You can see from prior posts in this thread that my amp was dead and the boss at La Figaro promised to send the necessary part for me to fix the amp. He even said he would send the part at no charge if I pay for expedited ems shipping. He emailed me with the amount and I payed instantly with Paypal. About one week later I still had not received any ems tracking number for the parts so I emailed him. Eventually he got back saying he did not have the tracking number since it goes first through Shenzen which takes 4 days. It has now been two weeks and still no tracking number. My amp is still dead. He is no longer answering my emails. I must assume it never shipped and I paid shipping for nothing. I would gladly have paid four times as much to actually get the parts.

 

I wanted to share this for those thinking of purchasing La Figaro as we are a community and we need to share our good experience as well as the bad. I am going to give this until the end of this week and then I will give up and order a new amp from a different manufacturer. I cannot be without an amp for more than a month as my music is an important part of my daily life. This time I will work with a company that speaks English.

post #1942 of 2502

Wow!  THANKS for sharing. I was going to look up the 339 on my trip to China but I'll pass now.  Going for the Crack instead but was still considering the 339 for comparison.  THANKS for the caution - much appreciated.

 

UL

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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post

I want to update my situation with my dead La Figaro amp. I have been a member of this community for some time and I respect that we all share our experience in an effort to help each other. It's in that spirit that I share this information. You can see from prior posts in this thread that my amp was dead and the boss at La Figaro promised to send the necessary part for me to fix the amp. He even said he would send the part at no charge if I pay for expedited ems shipping. He emailed me with the amount and I payed instantly with Paypal. About one week later I still had not received any ems tracking number for the parts so I emailed him. Eventually he got back saying he did not have the tracking number since it goes first through Shenzen which takes 4 days. It has now been two weeks and still no tracking number. My amp is still dead. He is no longer answering my emails. I must assume it never shipped and I paid shipping for nothing. I would gladly have paid four times as much to actually get the parts.

 

I wanted to share this for those thinking of purchasing La Figaro as we are a community and we need to share our good experience as well as the bad. I am going to give this until the end of this week and then I will give up and order a new amp from a different manufacturer. I cannot be without an amp for more than a month as my music is an important part of my daily life. This time I will work with a company that speaks English.

post #1943 of 2502

Those who have been here longer know that each problem with the 339 was fixed. Tracking numbers are hardly ever communicated by LF.

Saying you won't look at this brand anymore because of one negative post is ridiculous and that would mean you couldn't look at any brand cause no one is perfect.

 

I'm not saying LF communication shouldn't be better, cause it should be, and yes, they might take some time to get an issue resolved, but it gets resolved. I understand your frustration of being without an amp, but give them some credit. (Also don't forget the man had serious health issues q while back)

 

On a positive note my C3G to 6J4P adapters will arrive in 3 weeks time, I'm curious to how this will make the 339 sound

 

post #1944 of 2502

I would have bought the resistors myself, because the one the boss will send you is not high grade. They change their design with a resistors network that should fixed the sad situation you're in. Mills resistors here are 6 bux each :

http://www.partsconnexion.com/resistors_mills_mrc.html

Get the two channel replaced while you're at it, a 1000ohms with a 910ohms in parallele in each channel will get you 476ohm with a 100watts reserve. They are non inductive and very precise, that's what I used.

 

EDIT : sorry, thought Chodi had the 339, but it's the 332c, anyway there are Mills 1K50W too!


Edited by telecaster - 8/6/13 at 11:56am
post #1945 of 2502
Quote:Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

Those who have been here longer know that each problem with the 339 was fixed. Tracking numbers are hardly ever communicated by LF.

 

 

I had to laugh when I saw that comment. If they don't communicate tracking numbers they could not deliver product to Thailand. Our system usually requires that you contact customs when they receive the item and that you must do through the tracking number only. Without that tracking number you would never receive any overseas shipment that requires duty or taxes (which is nearly everything). I work with many Chinese companies in my business and they all communicate tracking numbers. Anyway, I would choose to take my business elsewhere. I have ordered a new amp from a local Bangkok dealer to resolve my problem. It is five times the cost of La Figaro but they answer the phone when I call. To me that is worth the difference in the price.

 

 

post #1946 of 2502
Originally Posted by Chodi View Post
 

Has been issued, given a few days you should receive

 

post #1947 of 2502

Some people rolleyes.gif

 

As I said, it all gets resolved, the tracking number was even posted on here. People have no patience these days. biggrin.gif

post #1948 of 2502
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Originally Posted by Ultrainferno View Post

Some people rolleyes.gif

 

As I said, it all gets resolved, the tracking number was even posted on here. People have no patience these days. biggrin.gif

Look, I realize that La Figaro is just a very small company trying to make it in a small market. Their products perform far above their price point. I am just one of those guys that would rather pay more and get local service. Lots of DIY guys would find ordering from La Figaro a really good choice. Yesterday I just bought a Woo Audio WA2 with upgraded tubes from the Bangkok authorized distributor. I will get it delivered to my door tomorrow. If it breaks they service it. Considering the cost of that here I paid 40% more than U.S. retail but to me it's worth the peace of mind.

 

You will note he never sent the tracking number until I posted here. I paid for express ems shipping and that code is for regular airmail which can take 3-6 weeks to Thailand from China. I guess he didn't feel my urgency.


Edited by Chodi - 8/7/13 at 1:30am
post #1949 of 2502

Ah, but the most important hing is you have the tracking number :)

 

I do hear what you're saying and I can fully understand. My point is every single issue has always been resolved, so you can't really complain about that.

You chose well with the WA2. Sound is completely different from the 339 but it is a great sounding and looking amplifier, I have one in my collection as well. Enjoy!

post #1950 of 2502
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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post

Look, I realize that La Figaro is just a very small company trying to make it in a small market. Their products perform far above their price point. I am just one of those guys that would rather pay more and get local service. Lots of DIY guys would find ordering from La Figaro a really good choice. Yesterday I just bought a Woo Audio WA2 with upgraded tubes from the Bangkok authorized distributor. I will get it delivered to my door tomorrow. If it breaks they service it. Considering the cost of that here I paid 40% more than U.S. retail but to me it's worth the peace of mind.

 

You will note he never sent the tracking number until I posted here. I paid for express ems shipping and that code is for regular airmail which can take 3-6 weeks to Thailand from China. I guess he didn't feel my urgency.

 As the thaï say, chai yen yen! I understand your problem, and frankly when you'll have your amp up and running, you will hopefully still appreciate it!

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