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Well, I tried to type under the quote, but the forum sw is buggy...

 

Vaughn, have you compared this Paperstone to Corian for a plinth?  I'm curious as to which is a better dampening material.  I have plans to build a custom TT based on a highly modified broadcasting TT, but I will need a pretty massive plinth. 

 

Also, WRT to lathes, look for used Delta or Rockwell lathes.  I have an old Delta and it's the bomb.  Massive as hell with a cast iron bed and a very simple belt tensioner based on the motor's weight.  I'm waiting for my friend to give my the stand so I can get it up and running with a 1/2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor and VFD so I can run 100% torque from 25% speed to 100% speed and the torque drops off to 1/2 when it's run at 200% speed, but that's still better than most motors and plenty for polishing and fine sanding work.  Eventually I'll buy a 1HP or 2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor for it so it won't bog down at all on large swings at higher speeds.  I think it's a 12" or 14" swing lathe stock.  The only bad part about it is that it will not be easy to convert to CNC so I'll eventually have to add a second lathe. 
 

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It is, however, an excellent material for turntable plinths, speaker baffles and hopefully headphone housings.

 

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 I have a thick necksmile.gif

 

Is it red as well? evil_smiley.gif

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Well, I tried to type under the quote, but the forum sw is buggy...

 

Vaughn, have you compared this Paperstone to Corian for a plinth?  I'm curious as to which is a better dampening material.  I have plans to build a custom TT based on a highly modified broadcasting TT, but I will need a pretty massive plinth. 

 

Also, WRT to lathes, look for used Delta or Rockwell lathes.  I have an old Delta and it's the bomb.  Massive as hell with a cast iron bed and a very simple belt tensioner based on the motor's weight.  I'm waiting for my friend to give my the stand so I can get it up and running with a 1/2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor and VFD so I can run 100% torque from 25% speed to 100% speed and the torque drops off to 1/2 when it's run at 200% speed, but that's still better than most motors and plenty for polishing and fine sanding work.  Eventually I'll buy a 1HP or 2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor for it so it won't bog down at all on large swings at higher speeds.  I think it's a 12" or 14" swing lathe stock.  The only bad part about it is that it will not be easy to convert to CNC so I'll eventually have to add a second lathe. 
 

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Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post

 

It is, however, an excellent material for turntable plinths, speaker baffles and hopefully headphone housings.

 


I haven't made a plinth with Corian, but I have used it on several other occasions. I would say the PS is a little more dead than the Corian, and I prefer working with it. Also, I think the polished PS is much nicer looking than Corian, which always looks like plastic to me. I just had a sweet broadcasting turntable (Gates Harris CB1200) that I had planned on doing the same thing to but ended up passing it along.

 

Thanks for the advice on lathes, I'll have to keep an eye out for a good deal on one of those older models. I think the mini lathe will work well for me short term due to space considerations, and the fact that I'm just going to be turning small parts.

 



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 I have a thick necksmile.gif

 

Is it red as well? evil_smiley.gif


Now now, you wouldn't prejudge a fellow based solely upon the color of his neck, would you?cool.gif

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Well, I tried to type under the quote, but the forum sw is buggy...

 

Vaughn, have you compared this Paperstone to Corian for a plinth?  I'm curious as to which is a better dampening material.  I have plans to build a custom TT based on a highly modified broadcasting TT, but I will need a pretty massive plinth. 

 

Also, WRT to lathes, look for used Delta or Rockwell lathes.  I have an old Delta and it's the bomb.  Massive as hell with a cast iron bed and a very simple belt tensioner based on the motor's weight.  I'm waiting for my friend to give my the stand so I can get it up and running with a 1/2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor and VFD so I can run 100% torque from 25% speed to 100% speed and the torque drops off to 1/2 when it's run at 200% speed, but that's still better than most motors and plenty for polishing and fine sanding work.  Eventually I'll buy a 1HP or 2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor for it so it won't bog down at all on large swings at higher speeds.  I think it's a 12" or 14" swing lathe stock.  The only bad part about it is that it will not be easy to convert to CNC so I'll eventually have to add a second lathe. 
 

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Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post

 

It is, however, an excellent material for turntable plinths, speaker baffles and hopefully headphone housings.

 


I haven't made a plinth with Corian, but I have used it on several other occasions. I would say the PS is a little more dead than the Corian, and I prefer working with it. Also, I think the polished PS is much nicer looking than Corian, which always looks like plastic to me. I just had a sweet broadcasting turntable (Gates Harris CB1200) that I had planned on doing the same thing to but ended up passing it along.

 

Thanks for the advice on lathes, I'll have to keep an eye out for a good deal on one of those older models. I think the mini lathe will work well for me short term due to space considerations, and the fact that I'm just going to be turning small parts.

 


 


I was going to vacuum bag veneer the Corian, so it would be a wood finish.  wink_face.gif

 

I need to see if a friend can get the Paperstone.  I was also looking at recycled, filled glass material used for counter-tops that is just awesome looking.  It's not as deadening as the other two, but I could easily dampen and mass load it.  The glass wins the looks category by a wide margin. 

 

Man, I wish I knew you had the GH to pass on.  I haven't decided if I'll go with a Pabst AC motor or go DC Brushless, but either way, the idler platter will be turned to balance it and then grooved on the outside edge for a belt drive.  It will sit on a set of Timken thrust bearings with the motor isolated from everything else.  Tone arm will be a modded Rega 250. 

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The paperstone is definitely nice stuff and it'll be sweet with a polish on it. I've been looking around for corian but it's hard to find small pieces and the most common thickness is about half an inch thick. The paperstone seems like the best of all worlds for synthetics. The high density and weight are actually very useful for thunderpants because one of the reasons they sound like they do is due to the high mass, so heaviness is simply a part of why they sound great. Not ideal if you're looking for lightweight phones but if sound is what you want, the weight gives them that.


Edited by smeggy - 11/18/10 at 11:15am
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The paperstone is definitely nice stuff and it'll be sweet with a polish on it. I've been looking around for corian but it's hard to find small pieces and the most common thickness is about half an inch thick. The paperstone seems like the best of all worlds for synthetics. The high density and weight are actually very useful for thunderpants because one of the reasons they sound like they do is due to the high mass, so heaviness is simply a part of why they sound great. Not ideal if you're looking for lightweight phones but if sound is what you want, the weight gives them that.



Good to know Smeggy, I'll quite removing material from my cups! Seriously, I think I could live with the weight as they are now (no heavier than a pair of Koss Pro 4AA's...

 

In addition to that I received the remaining bits in the mail today to put them together so I am going to quit fiddling with the housing.

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Yeah I wouldn't worry too much about the weight, when you add a headband it ends up being secure and comfy anyway. 

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myn are heavy as shiz but they are comfy past the two hour mark. a nice supple leather headstrap glued on will make or break the comfort level imo. Would i go out for a jog with them... no but i certainly could wear them around campus without too much awkwardness (despite people looking at me super weird)

 

Overall i seriously love my version of the Thunderpantalones smile.gif     I have sold all my hp's besides my portable rig.  and I am sticking with the TP because i cant afford to mess around with this hobby to find better sound than i already have with the TP.

 

excited to see where these have gone smeggs!!!

 

 

cheers,

 

M

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ok, pics that will hopefully clear it up a bit

 

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so there you go, hope its a bit more helpful than the previous stuff.


Hey guys,

I'm just wondering if these diagrams that smeggy shared a while back are still the most up to date version of the TPs

I'm about to forward them to my guy, and hes going to be charging me a pretty hefty sum for them to be made, so I would really like to do it right the first time round.

If there are any specific places where I should place holes, that kind of knowledge would help as well. As well as suggestions for wood.

 

Thanks!

post #985 of 2192

If you want to get the most up to date version purchase a finished pair from smeggy.

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^^ indeed

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Hey guys,

I'm just wondering if these diagrams that smeggy shared a while back are still the most up to date version of the TPs

I'm about to forward them to my guy, and hes going to be charging me a pretty hefty sum for them to be made, so I would really like to do it right the first time round.

If there are any specific places where I should place holes, that kind of knowledge would help as well. As well as suggestions for wood.

 

Thanks!


Thats the model most of the modders here have been using. I suggest using that as a base model and try to explore different ideas and options. Thats what I did. 

 

If you'd rather not do any experimenting I'd just use that, It sounds really nice the way that it is. The real challenge is going to be dampening and sealing. 

 

Also in terms of wood, Any wood should work fine but I think Hardwoods work the best.


Edited by Bigrock2150 - 11/18/10 at 7:55pm
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Well, I tried to type under the quote, but the forum sw is buggy...

 

Vaughn, have you compared this Paperstone to Corian for a plinth?  I'm curious as to which is a better dampening material.  I have plans to build a custom TT based on a highly modified broadcasting TT, but I will need a pretty massive plinth. 

 

Also, WRT to lathes, look for used Delta or Rockwell lathes.  I have an old Delta and it's the bomb.  Massive as hell with a cast iron bed and a very simple belt tensioner based on the motor's weight.  I'm waiting for my friend to give my the stand so I can get it up and running with a 1/2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor and VFD so I can run 100% torque from 25% speed to 100% speed and the torque drops off to 1/2 when it's run at 200% speed, but that's still better than most motors and plenty for polishing and fine sanding work.  Eventually I'll buy a 1HP or 2HP TEFC Inverter Duty motor for it so it won't bog down at all on large swings at higher speeds.  I think it's a 12" or 14" swing lathe stock.  The only bad part about it is that it will not be easy to convert to CNC so I'll eventually have to add a second lathe. 
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post

 

It is, however, an excellent material for turntable plinths, speaker baffles and hopefully headphone housings.

 


I haven't made a plinth with Corian, but I have used it on several other occasions. I would say the PS is a little more dead than the Corian, and I prefer working with it. Also, I think the polished PS is much nicer looking than Corian, which always looks like plastic to me. I just had a sweet broadcasting turntable (Gates Harris CB1200) that I had planned on doing the same thing to but ended up passing it along.

 

Thanks for the advice on lathes, I'll have to keep an eye out for a good deal on one of those older models. I think the mini lathe will work well for me short term due to space considerations, and the fact that I'm just going to be turning small parts.

 


 


I was going to vacuum bag veneer the Corian, so it would be a wood finish.  wink_face.gif

 

I need to see if a friend can get the Paperstone.  I was also looking at recycled, filled glass material used for counter-tops that is just awesome looking.  It's not as deadening as the other two, but I could easily dampen and mass load it.  The glass wins the looks category by a wide margin. 

 

Man, I wish I knew you had the GH to pass on.  I haven't decided if I'll go with a Pabst AC motor or go DC Brushless, but either way, the idler platter will be turned to balance it and then grooved on the outside edge for a belt drive.  It will sit on a set of Timken thrust bearings with the motor isolated from everything else.  Tone arm will be a modded Rega 250. 


Veneer over Corian sounds like a great idea, best of both worlds. I just picked up a Fairchild 412 today that uses the Pabst hysteresis motor. I do believe that is going to be my next project. It sounds like you will have a world class turntable when it is finished.

 

Sorry, I'll get back on topic for the rest of you...

 

I had planned on finishing up my TP's today but I'm totally wiped out, plus I need new baffle screws that are 3/8" long to account for the foam sealing gasket. I should have them up and running tomorrow night and will check back in with photos/initial impressions.

 

 

 

post #989 of 2192

I'm falling in love with the look of these....i really need to stop coming to this thread until i can afford some.....

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I'm falling in love with the look of these....i really need to stop coming to this thread until i can afford some.....



It's not the look but the sound that you should be falling in love with.  Come to a Portland area Head-Fi meet and you should be able to listen to one. evil_smiley.gif

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