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post #16 of 23

Will do. Thanks for the tip! ;)

post #17 of 23
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First of all know that I have never heard the GMP 450 and to be honest the choice for you is easy. It all comes down to whether or not you want a closed (450) headphone or an open one (400). Also, it has been quite a while since I posted my review.

 

The GMP 400 I got on loan was equipped with the velour closed back pads. From memory they cripple the sound in a big way. They sounded boomy with no highs to speak off. The open back pads fixed this and they reminded me of the DT880. The DT880 pads on the 400 sat on very tight, but they fit nonetheless and they made the 400 sound even more like the DT880. They were more transparent with those pads.

 

I think my review reflects my thoughts. Like I said you should make the choice between open and closed. Disregard the 435S as imo they are not as good for monitoring purposes as the 400.

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Originally Posted by apatN View Post

First of all know that I have never heard the GMP 450 and to be honest the choice for you is easy. It all comes down to whether or not you want a closed (450) headphone or an open one (400).

 

Not sure about that, since the GMP450 hardly isolates,

Same with my GMP250, great headphone (some prefer them over the 450), but the isolation is really bad.
 

post #19 of 23

Well, to decide if I want a closed or open headphone seems to be kind of a mute point with these particular headphones since, the GMP 450 is said to sound like an open headphone and to isolate... almost like an open headphone!

I don't require isolation myself and I would like to avoid the sonic shortcomings of a closed back design.

 

The real reason of my questions to you is that the MB Quart QP 400 (the predecessor of the GMP 400), which I auditioned, sounded to me very very thin and bright, extremely basslight, with very thin mids and prominet treble... not a balanced sound at all.

So knowing how the GMP 400 sound with the opened back earpads, that were the stock ones on the MB Quart, I thought I could know if they still sound the same as the MB Quarts.

 

If I get to know that they sound the same, I would choose the GMP 450 Pro.

But, from your impressions, it seems that the GMP 400 do not sound exactly as the QP 400, because you say that their sound reminds you the DT880 which is certainly not basslight or thin sounding. Or at least you never say that the GMP 400 sounds basslight or thin...

 

That's interesting because that suggests that there probably was some driver tweak on the QP 400, when MB Quart became German Maestro!

 

Thanks for your input apatN!

post #20 of 23

I wanted to ask if the GMP 435s sounded good with the velour padding and if you had tried it on those headphones, because the only thing about them I do nothting I would like is the lack of space their pads allow ears. So, if you could let me know if they have a good sound and it's sq does not suffer with the change of a DT 880 pad?

post #21 of 23

I know this is an old thread. However... it might still be useful to some people. So I will put my short feedback on the 435S headphones after two years of usage.

 

In brief - they are nearly impossible to listen. The bass is significantly lacking and the highs are super emphasized and overly harsh. These headphones are so bright that I tend to think (from time to time) that they are defective. My official dealer thinks they are ok. Which is probably the case. Yes, they are detailed, analytical, open etc. But the tonal balance is so awry that it hits you on the first notes and becomes very annoying after several songs. I have compared them with Sennheiser 650, 800m AudioTechnica ATX50 and several other headphones. And they all seem to have a better tonal balance. I have also tested them with several amplifiers (Tube and SS) and ir does not change the situation.

 

The other stuff, the build quality is very cheap, they are plastic and the plastic quality is cheap. And additionally the ear pads are very annoying. They are comfortable but they don't breathe and after several songs it becomes hot and sweaty and annoying.

 

I am neither a professional tester nor a very picky user. I have cheap stuff and I have more expensive stuff of equipment in my quiver. Some cheap equipment works flawlessly for me as some expensive does. However, the 435s have major flaws and I really find it difficult to understand how anyone can enjoy them. I think one must be a masochist to enjoy them :)

 

Hope this helps. And I would appreciate the other people's feedbacks on these headphones.


Edited by povilkami - 11/23/16 at 5:49am
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by povilkami View Post
 

I know this is an old thread. However... it might still be useful to some people. So I will put my short feedback on the 435S headphones after two years of usage.

 

In brief - they are nearly impossible to listen. The bass is significantly lacking and the highs are super emphasized and overly harsh. These headphones are so bright that I tend to think (from time to time) that they are defective. My official dealer thinks they are ok. Which is probably the case. Yes, they are detailed, analytical, open etc. But the tonal balance is so awry that it hits you on the first notes and becomes very annoying after several songs. I have compared them with Sennheiser 650, 800m AudioTechnica ATX50 and several other headphones. And they all seem to have a better tonal balance. I have also tested them with several amplifiers (Tube and SS) and ir does not change the situation.

 

The other stuff, the build quality is very cheap, they are plastic and the plastic quality is cheap. And additionally the ear pads are very annoying. They are comfortable but they don't breathe and after several songs it becomes hot and sweaty and annoying.

 

I am neither a professional tester nor a very picky user. I have cheap stuff and I have more expensive stuff of equipment in my quiver. Some cheap equipment works flawlessly for me as some expensive does. However, the 435s have major flaws and I really find it difficult to understand how anyone can enjoy them. I think one must be a masochist to enjoy them :)

 

Hope this helps. And I would appreciate the other people's feedbacks on these headphones.

Sounds like you enjoyed them a lot :D

 

I didn´t find anything harsh in them. Are you ramping up volume in hunt for more bass? Comfort was excellent and build quality didn´t seem bad at all. Plastic can be super durable afterall particularly if you drop them it helps if they are super light and somewhat flexible. 

 

Not a favoruite of mine but didn´t hear anything that bad.

post #23 of 23

I was close to biting on these but most reviews say they get edged out by beyer, but they didnt say these were bad or anything.

I'd like to give them a shot in the future for sure.

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