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Warm and comfortable IEMs for $50ish?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

trying to find a nice set of IEMs that are warm sounding, ( with color and not neutral or flat sounding ) with decent bass and good mids and highs.  

 

I was about to pull the trigger on the thinksound rain on a whim but thankfully i was stopped by a friend as he said they were not what I am looking for.  So thank you do him, lol.

 

anyway, ive a budget of about 50$ and am looking for a warm sounding and very comfortable iem

post #2 of 22

Visang r03 / Brainwavz M2

post #3 of 22
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how can the brainwavz M2 be both fun and engaging/exciting, but also refined?  

post #4 of 22

i dont know, ask aston martin or masserati

post #5 of 22
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ummm...both of those cars costs a few hundred grand...and would be like comparing the M2 to something like the Sennheiser HE90 thats also a few grand

 

the m2 are lke 60 bucks man...ive never heard of a pair of headphones being both REFINED ( which usually means a neutral balance ) but also fun and colored?  Thats something I've wanted for 2 decades and im having a lot of trouble believing it for that price.  I mean if thats true, that would be my ideal iem


Edited by swbf2cheater - 7/6/10 at 1:02pm
post #6 of 22
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how can the brainwavz M2 be both fun and engaging/exciting, but also refined?  


Um, he has the Visang R03, so I assume he's speaking from experience and knows what he's saying -- he usually does.

post #7 of 22

Haven't heard the M2s but the M1s fit the bill w/ Eq IMO.  I was surpirsed how well they Eq.

post #8 of 22

Price is becoming increasingly unreliable as a measure of performance. The Visang R03/M2  has gotten a fair amount of props for having a good fun/refinement mix. 

 

Maybe check out the Nuforce Ne6/7. I was listening to a pair last night and noticed they were more colored, and less aggressive than my M6. (I wouldn't call them refined, though)


Edited by HappyFi - 7/6/10 at 1:20pm
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by kmhaynes View Post




Um, he has the Visang R03, so I assume he's speaking from experience and knows what he's saying -- he usually does.


i dont dout his experience, so dont assume i was.   Saying its both refined and colored is a contradiction, but one ive hunted for many years.  

 

Edit:  I've also been looking into the FA eterna, bot this and that eterna look awesome


Edited by swbf2cheater - 7/6/10 at 1:28pm
post #10 of 22

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i dont dout his experience, so dont assume i was.   Saying its both refined and colored is a contradiction, but one ive hunted for many years.  


I don't know what refined means to you but to me it doesn't indicate neutrality or realism but rather smoothness and attention to detail. A 'refined' IEM is one that won't surprise you with a nasty treble spike or kick you in the head with an unruly glob of bass. The Senn IE8 is refined but it's far from uncolored. I totally agree with mark on this one - the R03 is a warm and refined IEM. I could enjoy it in front of the fireplace with a glass of whiskey.

post #11 of 22
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well, refined means absent of impurity, which means neutral.  

 

so you cant call a colored sound signature refined...which is what mp4 nation says its a refined sound, but also a signature that is fun and exciting.  That makes no sense but still i am interested in both the eterna and this model.  Refined would be smooth, balanced, polite in sound, gentle even, subtle.  So im really confused as to why its advertised as fun and exciting? lol

 

anyway, im sure its a great set but its pretty far below the Eterna on the list 

http://www.inearmatters.net/2009/01/list.html

post #12 of 22
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well, refined means absent of impurity, which means neutral.  

 


I don't get how you came up w/ neutral from that honestly.  I can get a double distilled Scotch aged for 20 years in Cherry casks that is incredibly refined and anything but neutral.  Color does not equal impurity.  Neutral means flat, not acid or base.  Has nothing to do w/ grain, grit, sibilance, mud or boom. 

post #13 of 22

i have some klipsch s4's and i think they sond great.  suprisingly good actually.  I used to own the klipsch x10's ($350) and sold them to get some money.  I bought the s4's instead on ebay for right around 50 bucks - they cost $80 new on amazon.

 

I currently have 2 pairs of headphones.. $750 thunderpants, and $45 klipsch s4, Going from the TP's to the s4's isnt so bad, and the TP's sound incredible. 

The s4's sound good to me with no eq on my ipod and definately have good bass, but not too much.  They have a nice musical sound, definately not flat or sterile.   They are also VERY comfy and isolate well.

 

 

Ive never tried the R03 so i cant make a comparison there...

post #14 of 22

I recommend the nufroce ne-6. I've tried it and I cannot say anything bad about it. It is a coloured IEM, but the sound is very smooth. I think smoothness is what you are looking for. There is absolutely no sibilance or grain in these phones. The reason why I sold it though is that it isn't very neutral or detailed. The RE0s take the cake for detail and neutrality. Overall the NE-6 is a very warm, smooth and coloured headphone.

The next step up in terms of detail would be the soundmagic PL50, at the expense of colour and warmth though. I never heard it, though I'm interested in its balanced and smooth sound signature, as many people have told me.

Good luck on your search!

post #15 of 22
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I don't get how you came up w/ neutral from that honestly.  I can get a double distilled Scotch aged for 20 years in Cherry casks that is incredibly refined and anything but neutral.  Color does not equal impurity.  Neutral means flat, not acid or base.  Has nothing to do w/ grain, grit, sibilance, mud or boom. 


Thats because people don't know what the definition of some words are and only use it to enhance the appeal of the product even when it should not be used.  If you refine something, you remove the impurities to make it...as neutral and bare as possible.  There should be 0 coloring in a set labeled truly refined, but its also called fun, engaging, forward and exciting?  Lol  ( dont get me wrong the reviews are astounding on them and i want one bad )

 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/refined

 

Im not sure if you know anything about alcohol, but scotch is very colored.  If you want a refined alcohol drink that really means refined, you will taste only the pure alcohol.  When alcohol is advertised as REFINED, that means the alcohol itself was distilled many times and refined to the point as purity, then depending on the brand some other things are added for flavoring...lol  Flavor is added to scotch.  Malt barely is added to the mix.  So you are not drinking a refined alcohol and very little else,  you are drinking a colored mix that becomes scotch due to the grains that are added after the alcohol is...refined to be as pure as possible. :)  it started as neutral alcohol and was made into scotch...  Just like headphones can be neutral ( purest alcohol comparable to expensive neutral headphones ) or colored, like the grado 225i or audio technicas or your pick ;)

 

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;)

 

edit:  but ill tell you what, the enterna looks AMAZING and vastly superior.  My next 70$ or so is going towards either the m2 or the eterna, not really sure yet since the enterna is only available from russia :-)


Edited by swbf2cheater - 7/6/10 at 2:51pm
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