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I do like Cowon, always wanted one but, getting them to Canada is a pain. In most cases I'm really trying to find a good DAP with a line out for my pico slim, good amount of space - expandable as well, with a good battery life, haha and all wrapped in a nice "portable" size DAP. Oh and good bang for the buck is a great plus.
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I just got a Clip+ as a replacement for my Fuze v.2 (returned due to some issues), and the Clip+ sounds thin and veiled compared to the Fuze, weaker, which from everything I've read makes zero sense. Totally caught me off guard. Could just be something with me, I dunno. Same headphones, same source material/file types. I'm mildly freaking out about it. Mildly.
x2. Same Clip+ experience.
Dang. I'll see if Rockboxing helps. If not I'll re-pick up a Fuze and use the Clip for audio books. edit: just read in the other thread where you said it didn't. blarg.
Edited by HappyFi - 7/12/10 at 7:57pm
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I have the original Clip, not the Clip+. I have always thought the sound quality was very good. Yes, you need to set the volume to 'high' and not use any EQ.. I also found it works the best with 16 Ohm phones. Grado SR60's work well but I found I get even better sound with a pair of Shure SE-115 (16 Ohms) IEMs. I've even tried it driving a Stax 2050II system from the headphone output. The Stax finally revealed some flaws in the SQ, but it still sounded very nice.
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IMHO, the Clip+ is awesome, especially with rockbox.
Remember...crap in...crap out. 
I just installed rockbox, and I do not know if I did it wrong but the navigation is horrible! Im hoping I did it wrong because I love how I it supports .m4a files. When I listen to one album i have to press random buttons to get back to my other music. Also, where is the shuffle through all music feature? Someone tell me what I may have done wrong lol. Oh there are some folders with ##music## and another with just music. Im guessing the one with ## are the songs I added before I put in rockbox? I dunno.
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I tried it too with my Stax and came to the same conclusion. It's actually not far from my CDP or from the s:flo². Just a bit too weak so the soundstage lacks depth in comparison.
With my dynamic headphone & IEM all of them (including the HO of my CDP) sound almost indistinguishable.
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I tried it too with my Stax and came to the same conclusion. It's actually not far from my CDP or from the s:flo². Just a bit too weak so the soundstage lacks depth in comparison.
With my dynamic headphone & IEM all of them (including the HO of my CDP) sound almost indistinguishable.
Are you using the LO of the Sflo or the HO for comparison?
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The LO of course but frankly the HO through the amp sounds about the same to me. I don't hear any treble roll off from the HO.
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I don´t think my Clip+ is anything special at all either, not anywhere near what some people say. That it´s the best thing since, well just anything.. on the other hand same people say there is basicly no difference in SQ between players so I´m not sure how to react to that?
Same people are also saying my hifiman 801 is way under Clip+ in SQ, backed up by graphs of course!
Doesn´t matter to me, my ears are telling me the 801 sounds better than Clip+ to me and I will continue to enjouy the 801 for buss/subway/work etc and the Clip+ when mooving light.
But they are cheap anyway, they are small, they have the option to extend memory and have decent batterytime, so I´ll keep my 2 clips to use on the go. They are perfect for running, cycling etc..
Ohh forgot, output on Clip+ is week for me to.
I think the Sansa Clip and Clip+ are the best players for that price. Sure, they have their weaknesses as has been pointed out, but they also offer pretty good sound quality, great portability, in case of the Clip+ extensibility and a nice enough interface. I've rockboxed one of my Clips, and that make it even better.
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I just installed rockbox, and I do not know if I did it wrong but the navigation is horrible! Im hoping I did it wrong because I love how I it supports .m4a files. When I listen to one album i have to press random buttons to get back to my other music. Also, where is the shuffle through all music feature? Someone tell me what I may have done wrong lol. Oh there are some folders with ##music## and another with just music. Im guessing the one with ## are the songs I added before I put in rockbox? I dunno.
Shuffle: just hold the middle button for a long press and you'll have the shuffle option. You can do it for individual albums, playlists, or just your entire library. If you also select "repeat" that means some songs may play again (by chance) whereas repeat off means nothing will play a second time.
Navigation: you're on your music screen. Press the home button to take you to the main menu. Then go to either the "now playing" option to return, or just go into files and pick something else.
Ignore the ##music## and just use the ' music' folder.
P.S. Use the rockbox manual on the rockbox site. It's there for a reason. RB is a bit more complex than the stock firmware, but once you learn what it can do (alot) you'll really come to like it.
Theres nothing to just listen/play through all files with shuffle?
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You can do that in the database. You have to allow shuffle first however.
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