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post #121 of 213
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There seems to be a huge discrepancy in volume output w/ the Clip+ unrelated to the Euro volume limiter.  Some claim their ears will explode at max volume.  Others can listen at 90% w/ average to moderate gain.  I'm in the latter camp that find the output underwhelming.


I do find that quite odd. When I had the clip+ paired with the DBA-02 I didn't go much past 50% at my normal listening volumes and at max it would be at levels where hearing loss would happen. DId you have yours on a EU volume limit or something?

 

Nope.  Turning EU limiter on cut the already moderate gain in half making it ridiculously low.  Plus my hearing is fine according to digital-recordings.com.  A few db roll off past 12k but apparently really good at 500hz and below.  If somebody here says their Clip can get as loud as the Sflo2 LO then I'll know there is something wrong w/ mine and everyone else who had the same problem.  My Clip+ has no more output than my Nano 2G and is behind every other DAP I have by a good margin.  I'm talking max output here not casual listening volume like some you who listen at 40db which is odd to me.  I'd rather listen to the news at that point myself. 
 

post #122 of 213

I just got an 8 GB Clip+ at Costco for ~$45.  Mine goes quite loud with the OF (updated to latest version).  The Clip+ even can drive my HD650's surprisingly well but I obviously have to turn it almost all the way up with those.  But when using it with my Shure SE530's, I usually keep the vol turned up slightly less than half way (with EQ flat).  (Also, Vol is set on high and region is North America.)

 

I think the SQ is quite good but the only other DAP I have used is an old Sansa E280 which I rockbboxed so it would take bigger SDHC cards.

 

So far, I'm quite pleased with the OF on the Clip+.  It plays the formats I need, has replay gain, seems to provide almost gapless playback, allows me to delete songs from the player easily, takes up to 32 GB micro SDHC cards (I just got a Kingston 32 GB one from Ebay for $54 shipped), has an easy to use sleep function.  Another thing is I love the way it merges the files that are on the SDHC card with the files on the internal memory so it all appears as one single big storage location when browsing through the music files via the player's UI (as opposed to browsing the files on the player internal memory and card separately with my computer).

 

So far I've seen no need to EQ it and thus see no need for the added complexity of the Rockbox UI, since the OF provides me with an easy UI that does everything I need, at least so far.  Maybe I'll put Rockbox on it down the road but for now I'm quite happy with the latest version of the OF and very pleased with the Clip+, especially for the money.  I've got an almost 40 GB tiny player for about $100 including the cost of the 32 GB micro SDHC card.

 

The only thing I'm really displeased about so far is that the battery is soldered in and can't easily be swapped out when traveling on long flights and needing extended play time.  I haven't run the battery down yet, but have read that many are disappointed with the run time that the battery allows.  I would satisfied if it really gave the 15 hours Sandisk claims, but many say it doesn't.  I'm thinking of perhaps getting a second unit I could swap my 32 GB card into if the battery doesn't last long enough (although I suppose I could use my still working Rockboxed E280 for that purpose).  But I'm very impressed with the tiny size and ultra light weight of the Clip+.  Just wish the battery was easily replaceable like it is on the E280.


Edited by harpua - 12/8/10 at 4:24pm
post #123 of 213


 

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I just got an 8 GB Clip+ at Costco for ~$45.  Mine goes quite loud with the OF (updated to latest version).  The Clip+ even can drive my HD650's surprisingly well but I obviously have to turn it almost all the way up with those.  But when using it with my Shure SE530's, I usually keep the vol turned up slightly less than half way (with EQ flat).  (Also, Vol is set on high and region is North America.)

 

I think the SQ is quite good but the only other DAP I have used is an old Sansa E280 which I rockbboxed so it would take bigger SDHC cards.

 

So far, I'm quite pleased with the OF on the Clip+.  It plays the formats I need, has replay gain, seems to provide almost gapless playback, allows me to delete songs from the player easily, takes up to 32 GB micro SDHC cards (I just got a Kingston 32 GB one from Ebay for $54 shipped), has an easy to use sleep function.  Another thing is I love the way it merges the files that are on the SDHC card with the files on the internal memory so it all appears as one single big storage location when browsing through the music files via the player's UI (as opposed to browsing the files on the player internal memory and card separately with my computer).

 

So far I've seen no need to EQ it and thus see no need for the added complexity of the Rockbox UI, since the OF provides me with an easy UI that does everything I need, at least so far.  Maybe I'll put Rockbox on it down the road but for now I'm quite happy with the latest version of the OF and very pleased with the Clip+, especially for the money.  I've got an almost 40 GB tiny player for about $100 including the cost of the 32 GB micro SDHC card.

 

The only thing I'm really displeased about so far is that the battery is soldered in and can't easily be swapped out when traveling on long flights and needing extended play time.  I haven't run the battery down yet, but have read that many are disappointed with the run time that the battery allows.  I would satisfied if it really gave the 15 hours Sandisk claims, but many say it doesn't.  I'm thinking of perhaps getting a second unit I could swap my 32 GB card into if the battery doesn't last long enough (although I suppose I could use my still working Rockboxed E280 for that purpose).  But I'm very impressed with the tiny size and ultra light weight of the Clip+.  Just wish the battery was easily replaceable like it is on the E280.



Depending on what format you load the player with, you can get vastly improved battery life with Rockbox....even if you don't EQ, that alone is a good enough reason to do it.wink_face.gif

post #124 of 213

I was expecting a decent audio quality from this DAP, but I was really disappointed. 

first of all it does not play my 24 bit wav files.

it sounds VERY feeble, thin, veiled and weak. 

it is small and it has FM radio built in which is not bad. but I am very unhappy.

maybe the audio quality is going to improve when I rockbox this in desperation. 

post #125 of 213

I'm loving my clip + , awesome little player.

but somehow a small vertical line appears in the screen when i turn it on, since first time i charged it.

 

next step, rockbox the little bastard. (what's the compatible version for the clip + V01.02.15P?

post #126 of 213
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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

I'm loving my clip + , awesome little player.

but somehow a small vertical line appears in the screen when i turn it on, since first time i charged it.

 

next step, rockbox the little bastard. (what's the compatible version for the clip + V01.02.15P?



The recommended version is the latest stable release.....3.7.1. Works like a charm on my two Clip+'s. L3000.gif

post #127 of 213
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I'm loving my clip + , awesome little player.

but somehow a small vertical line appears in the screen when i turn it on, since first time i charged it.

 

next step, rockbox the little bastard. (what's the compatible version for the clip + V01.02.15P?



The recommended version is the latest stable release.....3.7.1. Works like a charm on my two Clip+'s. L3000.gif


Will sure rockbox it by the end of this week and the next one. i heard it also improve the charge of the battery and loading time when it plays flac from the microSD(?) will have to see it to believe it.

post #128 of 213

I am happy you like the unit, I feel mine is garbage. I am going to futureshop  tomorrow to return it ;(

as Burson Audio puts it: "It is like listening to an orchestra through a keyhole"

it is good if all you care about is content. it has FM radio, you can listen to news if you want. also it is OK for music as a distraction for when you are working out. but if you want to "listen" to music, this does not come CLOSE to cutting it. Trust me, I am an instrumentalist. I know what an orchestra sounds like. 

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Originally Posted by JamesMcProgger View Post

I'm loving my clip + , awesome little player.

but somehow a small vertical line appears in the screen when i turn it on, since first time i charged it.

 

next step, rockbox the little bastard. (what's the compatible version for the clip + V01.02.15P?



The recommended version is the latest stable release.....3.7.1. Works like a charm on my two Clip+'s. L3000.gif


Will sure rockbox it by the end of this week and the next one. i heard it also improve the charge of the battery and loading time when it plays flac from the microSD(?) will have to see it to believe it.



FLAC playtime in the Sansa firmware is as low as 6 hours, I've heard....with Rockbox it's good for 15, IIRC.

post #130 of 213
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I am happy you like the unit, I feel mine is garbage. I am going to futureshop  tomorrow to return it ;(

as Burson Audio puts it: "It is like listening to an orchestra through a keyhole"

it is good if all you care about is content. it has FM radio, you can listen to news if you want. also it is OK for music as a distraction for when you are working out. but if you want to "listen" to music, this does not come CLOSE to cutting it. Trust me, I am an instrumentalist. I know what an orchestra sounds like. 



So what portable player measures up to your standards then?

post #131 of 213
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I am happy you like the unit, I feel mine is garbage. I am going to futureshop  tomorrow to return it ;(

as Burson Audio puts it: "It is like listening to an orchestra through a keyhole"

it is good if all you care about is content. it has FM radio, you can listen to news if you want. also it is OK for music as a distraction for when you are working out. but if you want to "listen" to music, this does not come CLOSE to cutting it. Trust me, I am an instrumentalist. I know what an orchestra sounds like. 



So what portable player measures up to your standards then?

I have not tried many portable players I am afriad, but I must say that my sisters Sony NWZ is a lot more musical. my friends Cowon S9 has better soundstaging and the ipod nano I used to have offers the same audio quality, but the UI is a lot friendlier, and it was a thing of beauty (although the audio quality of my ipod was garbage too). 

to me the Sansa clip+ pretty much, sounds like any other mainstream mp3 player out there, nothing special .

 

 


 

post #132 of 213
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Originally Posted by danielghofrani View Post

I am happy you like the unit, I feel mine is garbage. I am going to futureshop  tomorrow to return it ;(

as Burson Audio puts it: "It is like listening to an orchestra through a keyhole"

it is good if all you care about is content. it has FM radio, you can listen to news if you want. also it is OK for music as a distraction for when you are working out. but if you want to "listen" to music, this does not come CLOSE to cutting it. Trust me, I am an instrumentalist. I know what an orchestra sounds like. 



So what portable player measures up to your standards then?

I have not tried many portable players I am afriad, but I must say that my sisters Sony NWZ is a lot more musical. my friends Cowon S9 has better soundstaging and the ipod nano I used to have offers the same audio quality, but the UI is a lot friendlier, and it was a thing of beauty (although the audio quality of my ipod was garbage too). 

to me the Sansa clip+ pretty much, sounds like any other mainstream mp3 player out there, nothing special .

 

 


 


all of those player are triple or more the clip + in money.

and is not like "listening to an orchestra trough a keyhole".  at least not with portables, which headphones are you using with it?

post #133 of 213

I'm not as impressed with the SQ as I initially was (especially after having grown more accustomed to listening to music with my desktop rig and full size cans (see sig), which I doubt many DAP's/IEMs could compete with.  But I think the Clip+ does pretty well for the $45 I paid for the 8GB version.  SQ could be better but is fairly decent through my SE530's.  The ultra small size of the Clip+ means I can always have it clipped to my shirt pocket w/o even feeling it and that is a significant advantage to me. 


Edited by harpua - 12/26/10 at 10:12pm
post #134 of 213

I don't think that anyone here expects a 40$ mp3 player to produce sound value equivalent to a 200-300$ DAP

 

I bought a 8 GB for portability and on the run listening , but i also got a J3 for more serious listening.

 

You can't expect a mini martin to be easy to park AND to have the engine of a BMW.

 

Let's be reasonable and appreciate the clip+ for what it has to offer as it is.

post #135 of 213
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Originally Posted by danielghofrani View Post

I am happy you like the unit, I feel mine is garbage. I am going to futureshop  tomorrow to return it ;(

as Burson Audio puts it: "It is like listening to an orchestra through a keyhole"

it is good if all you care about is content. it has FM radio, you can listen to news if you want. also it is OK for music as a distraction for when you are working out. but if you want to "listen" to music, this does not come CLOSE to cutting it. Trust me, I am an instrumentalist. I know what an orchestra sounds like. 



So what portable player measures up to your standards then?

I have not tried many portable players I am afriad, but I must say that my sisters Sony NWZ is a lot more musical. my friends Cowon S9 has better soundstaging and the ipod nano I used to have offers the same audio quality, but the UI is a lot friendlier, and it was a thing of beauty (although the audio quality of my ipod was garbage too). 

to me the Sansa clip+ pretty much, sounds like any other mainstream mp3 player out there, nothing special .

 

 


 


all of those player are triple or more the clip + in money.

and is not like "listening to an orchestra trough a keyhole".  at least not with portables, which headphones are you using with it?

they dont triple the price. the Sony is just about 20$ more expensive yesterday(boxing day sale) in Futureshop (NWZE354B, and it has a full colour display. )

 

Sansa is in the same league as my 15$ sylvania mp3 player. 
 

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