sansa clip+ or ipod shuffle?

The Clip+ is definitely the lesser of the two evils in this case.  Rock the Box and be done w/ the shuffle.

The Clip+ sounds good. It's also helped by a nice built-in EQ and the potential for even better enhancements with Rockbox. I can't say it's an improvement over the iPod 5G with the RE0 because I think the RE0 benefited from the 5G's more powerful headphone-out. But it'll probably sound better than the Shuffle if there's a difference at all.

The Clip+ isn't evil at all. It's awesome in many ways. No rolloff of any kind with low impedance phones, very little hiss with sensitive phones, micro sd expansion, runs rockbox.

It also pairs well with grados too. Most portable players do.

I can't say I've tried the shuffle outside of the 1G one that looked like a flash drive. The clip+ is awesome. I'm not sensitive to hiss at all so that doesn't bother me but I do get some hiss out of my earphones but no big deal to me. It runs rockbox which is great, microsdhc slot is nice if I ever buy a memory card, built well and best of all it is cheap. I got a 8gb used for $40 and new is around $60 I believe.