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It is also on Meier Audio's website

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post #62 of 4008
Originally Posted by jkeny View Post

so we are into the task of trying various ways of minimising these reflections after the event - "the search for the best sounding cable" 

 

hehe, I've always found this endless "quest" grotesque to the extreme....the best cable is the shortest, filling pages on "analog sounding digital cable" blablabla regarding snake oil digital cables blessed by shamans up in the hills on a dark moon night sure must have steered away a lot of ppl off S/PDIF

 

I always find myself agreeing w/ what Mr Lavry says, who's undoubtedly one of the most knowledgeable ppl I've been reading lately: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/438220/nos-dac-marketing-bs#post_5905175

 

and when he says that the shorter your S/PDIF cable the better, then there's no need for fuss and fighting anymore IMHO..a 1ft 75Ω Canare cable w/ 75Ω plugs should do just fine(I've ordered one btw).

 

Originally Posted by jkeny View Post

Why don't they just standardise on 50hms & be done with it? This would seem to make more sense, no?

 

as you know, S/PDIF is full of technical flaws...at this point it prolly doesn't matter anymore: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/172143-spdif-vs-word-clock-question.html

 

now that you can buy cheap USB Isolators such as the ADuM4160 chip, that provides galvanic isolation and USB clock regeneration...I honestly think that the S/PDIF DAC days are counted.


Edited by leeperry - 7/5/10 at 6:48pm
post #63 of 4008

I absolutely believe he'll kill it if it sounds worse.

post #64 of 4008

The USB interface is even more flawed than SPDIF...why make things more complicated than they have to be ? Stick with BNC or settle on an I2S standard and be done with it. I would think integrating an I2S jack into a sound card/DAC would be rather easy to do and it could adopt the Firewire standard, DIN what have you. Rather than pushing for USB we should be pushing for I2S and/or SPDIF BNC.

 

Peete.

post #65 of 4008

Comparing the USB interface to the SPDIF one is like comparing the SATA interface with an internet connection - they aren't the same thing, at all!

post #66 of 4008

I think the name USBface is fine, but I've been asking around for new names because some people here have expressed dislike for the current name, and if we are to change it we better decide now before they produce all the chassis. The following are by someone drunk and talking in IRC, I would give him credit but not sure if he wants his name posted here. Bad names but heck I couldn't think up one I liked after an hour of thinking.

 

reclocker, termiclocker, the clock, clockohmungo, clock4u, clockIT, reclock, daclock, Uface, daFace, InYourFace.

 

This is also from someone else on IRC (don't be offended I just thought this was funny, I am shopping for a usb converter too :p): laughinyourfaceforthepriceyoupaidforthis

 

Monkey King is what I think audio-gd should name the usbface, since it seems their chinese mythology named amps never get criticized, and sometimes the best way to describe things is with flowery descriptors. With some imagination you might see how the following short summary is reminiscent of the function of a usb reclocker, ie lack of asynchronous and how monkey behaves even though he gets the job done because of the headband (DSP device) :).

 

http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese-mythology.php?deity=MONKEY

 

Quote:
As told in Journey To The West, GUAN-YIN enlisted MONKEY as chief disciple of the young Buddhist monk TRIPITAKA. Together with SANDY and PIGSY, he protected the boy on his quest to India, battling demons and righting wrongs along the way. His natural monkey trickery now had a holy purpose which he unleashed with much enthusiasm — and his uncontrollable ego was kept firmly in place by a little device of GUAN-YIN's devising: a head-band made of gold.

The unsuspecting Great Sage was not prepared for the terrible torture of the Headache Sutra! Whenever MONKEY misbehaved, TRIPITAKA recited the Sutra and the golden fillet squeezed until his very eyeballs felt like bursting. Try as he might, he could not remove it. There was no defense except submission, and pretty soon MONKEY was the most humble disciple the world has ever known. Usually.

 

Say you like USBface or give me some new name, or else Monkey King might actually get suggested to Kingwa :p.


Edited by haloxt - 7/5/10 at 7:12pm
post #67 of 4008

What a classic show, it aired in Australia for ages and was a huge part of my childhood.

 

How about "Digital Timer".

post #68 of 4008
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Originally Posted by haloxt View Post

 lack of asynchronous


I'm not sure I understand, is the the comparison is between the asynchronous HiFace and the non-asynchronous (isosynchronous ?) USBface?

 

USG

post #69 of 4008

I reckon he should call it the "Digital Monkey" and add AES I/O, at the very least because it sounds cool, at least to me! 

post #70 of 4008

They called the show Monkey Magic.

 

How about "Monkey Magic Timer".

post #71 of 4008
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Originally Posted by haloxt View Post


Monkey King is what I think audio-gd should name the usbface, since it seems their chinese mythology named amps never get criticized, and sometimes the best way to describe things is with flowery descriptors. With some imagination you might see how the following short summary is reminiscent of the function of a usb reclocker, ie lack of asynchronous and how monkey behaves even though he gets the job done because of the headband (DSP device) :).

 

http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/chinese-mythology.php?deity=MONKEY

 

 

Say you like USBface or give me some new name, or else Monkey King might actually get suggested to Kingwa :p.

I'm chinese and monkey king isn't exactly a cool mythical creature in asian culture, unlike a Phoenix.

 


 

post #72 of 4008

Whadaya mean.  Monkey's the coolest!  Every child in Aus loved that show in that era.

post #73 of 4008

upstateguy, Yes, the usbface is not asynchronous while hiface is. Although the concept of asynchronous usb audio transfer has been around for years, only a handful of manufacturers use it because of the difficulty in writing the software.

post #74 of 4008
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Originally Posted by haloxt View Post

upstateguy, Yes, the usbface is not asynchronous while hiface is. Although the concept of asynchronous usb audio transfer has been around for years, only a handful of manufacturers use it because of the difficulty in writing the software.


Yeah and Kingwa says that not asynch devices like the one being tested will sound the same on all stations. and according to him, asynch is a concept that can sound good or bad depending on the station it used on.

 

I think we should just call the unit MonkeyFace.


Edited by punk_guy182 - 7/6/10 at 7:35am
post #75 of 4008

heh. might as well call it PookieFace or something like that. But in all seriousness, it's outside design really doesn't have anything fun about it and would probably warrant a more serious name like DigitalConvert/Transit and some of the other stuff that has already been suggested.

 

I love MonkeyFace, but the design just doesn't suit the name

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