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I want to say the flickering occurred with serial numbers under 100, give or take. I hope I'm remembering that right. 

 

What are you guys using to put out a 192kHz signal over optical? A laptop? I've found very few sources that can actually do that. 

post #1127 of 1162
Thanks for the fast replies gents (and ladies if I missed it). The serial indeed is just a few under 100. As for the source, it's a Dell with an I7 cpu and realtek HD soundcard. It has a mini spdif out capable of putting out 192khz, although the sound is noticeably different than 96khz and not in a good way. Best way to describe it is 'thin' (this is on the Mini-i btw). No big deal, I never listen at that rate anyway. Just testing all the capabilities is all.

I'm using DT880 with the D100. It's definitely on the clinical side (even on Sound 2) but I love how the classics are sounding. Plus I think I can take the edge off with a tube amp down the road.

Thanks again for the input. Very happy with my D100!
Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 5/19/13 at 5:24pm
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Hello everyone!
I bought not long time ago HD 650 and now i'm in seek of nice dac+amp unit (now it work on realtek ac97 :)) for charge my pc set :)
That you can say about pair hd650 + yulong d100mk2 ? how it perform together? 
Or maybe it we better pair with Audio gd nfb 10.32 or Matrix quatro dac (+amp)? 
Later i plan buy stand alone amp for it (and use balance inputs). 
I need balanced sound with no "painting", with strong bass, clear middle and treble and feeling of Loudspeackers (no sound in head).
p.s. sorry for my english, it's not my native language.
post #1129 of 1162

The 650 and Yulong play very nicely together. It puts out a very clean, uncolored, headphone signal, and the 650 add a bit of earthiness and heft to them that keeps it from sounding too clinical. 

 

As for it sounding more like loudspeakers - that's a function of a few differing things, but the headphone controls that much more than the amp or dac ever could. You can try adding in a crossfeed plugin, if it is a major concern (which simulates loudspeaker placements and auditory delay and crossover).

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liamstrain

 

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The 650 and Yulong play very nicely together. It puts out a very clean, uncolored, headphone signal, and the 650 add a bit of earthiness and heft to them that keeps it from sounding too clinical. 

 

thanks! it's sounds nice :) but that about other. that you could say about matrix and audio-gd. btw some people recomend me look at Teac combo. anyone have some expirience with it?

 

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As for it sounding more like loudspeakers - that's a function of a few differing things, but the headphone controls that much more than the amp or dac ever could. You can try adding in a crossfeed plugin, if it is a major concern (which simulates loudspeaker placements and auditory delay and crossover).

Yeah i know about superstereo effect and crossfade. And i try it. But im talk about put sound out of head. With realtake sound is not very wide. I think with good dac and amp i te more surround sound (or i hope it be :)

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thanks! it's sounds nice :) but that about other. that you could say about matrix and audio-gd. btw some people recomend me look at Teac combo. anyone have some expirience with it?

 

 

 

I could say that about the Matrix, but i would be hesitant about the Audio-GD - I have found their amps and dacs to be slightly colored sounding. 

 

I have never tried the Teac's. 

post #1132 of 1162

liamstrain

 

Thanks again!

So you think d100 be good for headfi beginer? 

btw how it made(i mean quality of build) ?

 

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Mine is very well made. All of the Yulong gear is good. As for whether it is good for a beginner - depends very much on what you need. If you need a good, transparent dac with usb, optical and coax inputs, as well as balanced outputs - and a reasonable headamp built in, then yes. It is very good. 


Edited by liamstrain - 6/13/13 at 2:31pm
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ok. it's all i need to hear :)

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My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere-- I searched this thread, looked through the manual posted on the Grant Fidelity site, and did a Google search but haven't had any luck-- but does anyone know if the gain can be easily changed from within the unit, by jumpers maybe? I've always made do with the high output from the D100, but as I'm now finding the headphone amp doesn't pair particularly well with the ASG-2 I just got, I'm trying to use one of my portable headphone amps instead but cannot, as the volume is just too loud even with the amps set to the lowest possible settings.

In case it matters, I'm currently using the RCA-outs from the D100 directly into the portable amps, and my understanding is that this is an unattenuated output, which just makes it too darn loud. The two portable headphone amps I've tried thus far are the Leckerton UHA-6S Mk.II and Meier Audio PCSTEP, neither of which could attenuate the sound enough to be usable, although the Meier was more useful than the Leckerton was in this instance.

I realize I can get cable adapters with resistors in them to reduce the signal level, but I was hoping there'd be an option that didn't put more in the signal path. If this would be a better option, or there is no internal gain adjustment, or even if there's something else I'm not considering, I'd love to get any feedback anybody would care to share!!

Thanks in advance for any help someone could offer! smily_headphones1.gif
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Thread Starter 

Sorry, as far as I know there is no way to lower output. The problem is that Yulong designed the DAC with the expectation that it be used at home, with desktop amps. So like most other desktop DACs, it has a higher output voltage (not unusually high, it's actually very standardized). But most portable amps assume a very low voltage signal will be used, probably from an iPod LOD or something. They aren't expecting a full 2 Vrms like a home DAC. So while they tend to still work with full sized headphones, it's hit or miss with IEMs. 

 

You could always try some RCA attenuators to lower the signal. 

post #1137 of 1162
Darn. Makes sense though. Thanks for the feedback P86!!

I plan on giving the JDS Labs O2 a go as well, any hope of a better pairing there? smily_headphones1.gif
post #1138 of 1162
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

Darn. Makes sense though. Thanks for the feedback P86!!

I plan on giving the JDS Labs O2 a go as well, any hope of a better pairing there? smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

I'd think so. As a desktop unit it probably expects a standard 2 Vrms signal from a CD player or whatever. So it should work fine I'd think. 

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I'll definitely give it a shot then wink.gif. Thanks Project!!
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Hey all,

 

I have misplaced the D100 driver (non-MKII).  Does anyone have a copy they could send me?  I would really appreciate it!

 

Thanks in advance.

 

-E

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