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post #1096 of 1162

Same phone, different cable. 

post #1097 of 1162
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Keep in mind the D100 MKII has the usefull "sound mode" adjustment. Mode 2 cuts 3 dB for everything above 10kHz. Depending on how bright the headphone is and where the peaks fall in the FR chart, it may help smooth out the sound. 

 

It's an improvement over the original D100 (which started above 15kHz) but I'd find it even more useful if it started around 7kHz or so. But 10kHz and up is a classic trick for smooth sound so I can't complain. 

post #1098 of 1162

D100 latest model for sale if anyone might be interested.

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Does 192khz optical work for everyone? I'm having problems with my asus n56vz-s4246h laptop. Apparently the laptop supports 192 output, but d100 is having a problem receiving it...
44.1 is playing fine.
On 96 I can hear some jitter (compared same wav 44.1 vs upsampled to 96)
192 is just static noise
The same happens on win8 and linux.
Could it be the optical cable? It's very thin and I've bought it for ~1$ on ebay. Or maybe toslink implementation on my laptop is poor (unstable clock or whatever).? I hope it's not the d100's fault.
post #1100 of 1162
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Not sure what exactly you mean by hearing jitter - do you just mean you hear some artifacts or noise? Because actual jitter doesn't sound like that.

 

In any case, Toslink higher than 96kHz has always been less than reliable in my experience. Technically, it can handle it. In the real word, it doesn't always work. That's why some companies only advertise "up to 96kHz" just to be safe. 

 

I currently only have sources that top out at 96kHz over optical. So I can't even test for you. Sorry!


Edited by project86 - 12/21/12 at 11:42am
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Yes, I'm hearing artifacts that shouldn't be there.
Thanks
post #1102 of 1162
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

Keep in mind the D100 MKII has the usefull "sound mode" adjustment. Mode 2 cuts 3 dB for everything above 10kHz. Depending on how bright the headphone is and where the peaks fall in the FR chart, it may help smooth out the sound. 

 

It's an improvement over the original D100 (which started above 15kHz) but I'd find it even more useful if it started around 7kHz or so. But 10kHz and up is a classic trick for smooth sound so I can't complain. 


i know i am maybe a bit late...but i just read ur excellent review just now...and i have a question...u mention the 337se as equipment in ur list...i actually have a 337 and am interested to pair it with the d100 dac..to upgrade it to my hifiman hm602 used as dac..did the d100 pair well with ur 337se?

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Is the Schiit Asgard amp better for the D7000's than the Yulong D100's amp section?  Is the D100's DAC better than the Cambridge Audio 840C's DAC?

 

The reason I ask is that I just purchased a D7000.  I own an E17 that I utilize playing through my laptop for now.  My main system is downstairs in which I have the 840C as my CDP which I can utilize as a DAC and use the Asgard as my HPA.  Or I can get a D100 and utilize that through my laptop upstairs rather than my E17 but then not have a HPA down with my main system.  Or, just buy both and have the best of both worlds.. LOL
 

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i know i am maybe a bit late...but i just read ur excellent review just now...and i have a question...u mention the 337se as equipment in ur list...i actually have a 337 and am interested to pair it with the d100 dac..to upgrade it to my hifiman hm602 used as dac..did the d100 pair well with ur 337se?

 

D100 and 337 are a good combo - very airy and expansive presentation. I think it would be an appreciable gain over the 602.

 

 

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Originally Posted by KBerube80 View Post

Is the Schiit Asgard amp better for the D7000's than the Yulong D100's amp section?  Is the D100's DAC better than the Cambridge Audio 840C's DAC?

 

The reason I ask is that I just purchased a D7000.  I own an E17 that I utilize playing through my laptop for now.  My main system is downstairs in which I have the 840C as my CDP which I can utilize as a DAC and use the Asgard as my HPA.  Or I can get a D100 and utilize that through my laptop upstairs rather than my E17 but then not have a HPA down with my main system.  Or, just buy both and have the best of both worlds.. LOL
 

 

I haven't heard the Asgard so I don't know how it would compare, sorry. The original D100 is very similar to the 840C, maybe just a tad behind in terms of detail retrieval but with an edge in musicality. The newer D100 MKII is easily as good as the 840C though. Perhaps better - I've never done A/B comparisons, but do use both on a regular basis. I think the D100 MKII is a bit smother in the upper registers, and would fit better in a bright system. 

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Thank you kindly. beerchug.gif
 

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The asgard amp is better than the D100. The D100 dac is hard to compete with at its price point. I have version 1 of the D100, bought it 2 years ago, still use it every single day on pretty high end headphones. It's not a sales pitch, but I have a asgard for sale. I would buy the MKII but for me it doesn't pay off for slight changes in my case. I used the d7000 with a Music Streamer II+ and Asgard for the last year, occasionally used the D100. I liked the D100 for the LCD's because its a tad brighter than nuetral and made the LCD's not as dark IMO.

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How about usb in D100 MKII? He realized better than bifrost or similar device audio-gd 11.32? Someone managed to compare?

post #1108 of 1162

Hi,

 

Lemme see if I got after reading a lot: I need an amp if I want to use this one or the Yulong's sibling with speakers, do I?

 

Please, if you don't mind, answer the following questions. What's the difference between a combo dac/amp and a receiver? Is there any hifi dac/amp in this level all in one? What is the buffer?

 

Thanks for helping me.

post #1109 of 1162

It depends on the speakers. The D100 has balanced outputs and you can certainly use active monitors with it as is. But traditional passive speakers, yes, you would need to send the output through a higher powered amplifier. 

 

a combo dac/amp is a digital signal processor that includes a small amplifier for headphones - a receiver usually includes more inputs (phono/cd/dvd/tape/etc.) with a pre-amplifier circuit, as well as often including a radio tuner, and of course, an amplifier. 

 

Yes, there are receivers that also include DAC circuits to use as an all-in one, there are also DAC/Amps that are powerful enough for some speakers. Marantz and Cambridge Audio, for instance make receivers with DAC circuits (as do others). Peachtree, Wadia, and others make DAC/Amps that can drive speakers. 

 

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I do not know about the buffer size. 

post #1110 of 1162
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All receivers, except for 2 channel stereo only units, have built in DACs for all 5 or 7 channels (depending on if they are a 5.1 or 7.1 model). In some cases they have very nice DACs - a high end Anthem, Marantz, or Pioneer Elite may be just as good as an entry level or midrange DAC. I'd say the D100 is better than most surround receivers but certainly not all of them - some receivers cost thousands of dollars and are very nice. Still, they pack a lot of features into one box and something has to give, even at $2K or so. 

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