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Most neutral portable music player?

post #1 of 32
6/26/10 at 5:58am
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Hi all, this is my first post and as i am a lurker, i realized that there was not must information about a neutral DAP... could a kind soul please recommend one? my DAP(if it could be called that... it was so bad^^) just died on me...

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post #2 of 32
6/26/10 at 5:59am
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Oh, and i was wondering about the Hippo Gumstick too...

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post #3 of 32
6/26/10 at 6:09am

Despite what some may want you to believe, there's a good chance they all sound about the same.

 

That's a good thread to start noobies on, I think.

 

As far as measured frequency response, the Sansa Clip+ is flat-lined, which means neutral.

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post #4 of 32
6/26/10 at 7:40am

I read the post in question, however I have the HM-801 and it trounces the iPod Classic and the iPhone. So I am a firm believer of the HM-801 as a top contender, I am biased because I have listened and compared it to other units. ;)

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post #5 of 32
6/26/10 at 8:49am
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actually, i think it is the earphones/ headphones that makes the difference... but i still had to ask...^^ just to be sure i guess

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post #6 of 32
6/27/10 at 12:32am

 

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Originally Posted by Head Injury View Post
As far as measured frequency response, the Sansa Clip+ is flat-lined, which means neutral.


Yep, as far as sources go the good old humble Sansa Clip+ is certainly a contender for most the most neutral DAP.

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post #7 of 32
6/27/10 at 6:14am
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But i have heard that it is weak in that it is unable to drive higher impedance headphones... is there one that is neutral(if there is such a thing...^^) and strong at the same time? like i said, i am especially interested in the Hippo Gunstick and the Studio... please anyone who has owned both comment on the UI of both and if possible how well it measures up against other DAPs..

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post #8 of 32
6/27/10 at 2:42pm
What kind of phones do you plan to be driving? The Clip+ is good... but you have to be realistic.
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post #9 of 32
6/27/10 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by AlyssaBelle View Post

But i have heard that it is weak in that it is unable to drive higher impedance headphones... is there one that is neutral(if there is such a thing...^^) and strong at the same time? like i said, i am especially interested in the Hippo Gunstick and the Studio... please anyone who has owned both comment on the UI of both and if possible how well it measures up against other DAPs..


You can't really expect a DAP to drive something that requires an amp. They work fine for easy to drive fullsize headphones phones such as the AD700, MS-1, DT440, etc.  You shouldn't expect to use something like the HD600, DT880, or K701 with a portable player (even if you could get enough volume out of them). 

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post #10 of 32
6/27/10 at 4:10pm
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OK then.. thanks but i was looking for alternatives to the clip+ because i can't seem to find them here in Singapore... those of you knowledgeable here...please help! i have tried Sim lim square and funan to no avail and buying online is not an option as the shipping cost is...WOW!

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post #11 of 32
6/27/10 at 8:14pm

The Sansa Clip+ isn't even sold in Australia but I managed to get one on ebay. Have a look at global ebay, you should be able to find something at a reasonable price.

It truly is a brilliant player, and this is coming from someone who was highly skeptical about it when I bought my first DAP (Which I later sold and replaced with a Clip+).

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post #12 of 32
6/28/10 at 3:01pm

Most Nuetral?  Anything in White or Tan/Beige  :D

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post #13 of 32
6/29/10 at 8:04am

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Originally Posted by 4DThinker View Post

Most Nuetral?  Anything in White or Tan/Beige  :D


 

Or anything that it manufactured in Switzerland...

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post #14 of 32
7/2/10 at 8:50am
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really? oh... i would have thought that the most neutral colour is one that IS NOT a colour(transparent)^^

 

as for what DAP i am going to buy... i realized something, i have my heart set on a hippo gumstick. and i don't know if this would come across as trivia or useful information but the hippo gumstick have been reported to be able to drive headphones of 250 ohm, think i am going to pop down to Jaben to see it for myself...^^ thanks for all the info!

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Most Nuetral?  Anything in White or Tan/Beige  :D

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post #15 of 32
7/2/10 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by AlyssaBelle View Post

OK then.. thanks but i was looking for alternatives to the clip+ because i can't seem to find them here in Singapore... those of you knowledgeable here...please help! i have tried Sim lim square and funan to no avail and buying online is not an option as the shipping cost is...WOW!



What about buying online from a local seller? http://forums.vr-zone.com/singapore-marketplace-garage-sales/670956-brand-new-sansa-clip-plus-sansa-fuze.html

Don't know about the Gumstick, but I've tried the Clip+ and can say that it's really good.

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