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post #736 of 1508

Man, you're telling me... I literally work in an industry where pretty much all my cohorts and compatriots drive new Audis, Lexuseseses, Acuras, etc, and I drive a 1995 hoopty because I spend my discretionary (and sometimes my gas and food) income on audio gear. Some people raise families, some people start great organizations, some people hoard massive piles of money, and me? 

 

Yea, I buy headphones. And stuff. :)

 

Btw, the more I think about it, the more I think we need to look more deeply into the pads that are compatible with the T5p. No doubt the sound is substantially better with the clear gel pads (IMO), and I got on a tangent reading about the T70 and T70p, and I noticed something that might sound familiar to others around here: although the measurements showed a strong and deeply extended bass response, many users reported experiencing the opposite. I then saw a few people saying they were able to get exquisite bass by either pressing in on the cups or trying different pads. This obviously got me thinking. 

 

I wonder if we had pads that were significantly thicker (to create a better seal by pressing a bit more tightly and presumably spreading a bit more widely across the head) we'd see an improvement in the overall sound? Or perhaps using other materials? 

 

Malveaux (I believe it was) mentioned that he used some AKG pads and got tremendously better sound on the T70p... Might be worth looking into. 

post #737 of 1508
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

Though they are different I am really glad I got the 1350's for portable use, they compliment the T5P's perfectly I feel.
I thought this too, only I proceed in the opposite way. Now I rarely use the dt1350. I think these 2 are a good compliment sound wise too, to my ears, very different, each with their best suited sounds.
post #738 of 1508
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I wonder if we had pads that were significantly thicker (to create a better seal by pressing a bit more tightly and presumably spreading a bit more widely across the head) we'd see an improvement in the overall sound? Or perhaps using other materials? 

 

 

What if it's not the seal creating the improved bass response, but the distance decrease between the driver and the ear?

post #739 of 1508
I must admit I like the pads on these, they seal out noise amazingly and everything seems in balance. Aj, I agree with you on your thoughts.

Hey, has anyone seen this great review on youtube, he basically echoes my experience to a T, great review!
post #740 of 1508
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Dangit, now I find myself idly thinking about how nice a 1350 or T70p would be... DYHF (d@mn you Head-Fi!) ;)

If you have the T5p and DT-1350 already you will NOT NEED the T70p normal_smile%20.gif Though the T70p is a VERY good headphone indeed. I spend a long time deciding whether I liked the T70p or the T5p best living with both of them for two months. It is THAT good - now that you know the T5p. At the end I ended up listening to T5p the most but the T70/T70p is a headphone you must try if you like the bright Beyerdynamic house-sound! It has such an intimate and crystal clear sound but demands a lot from the source and other gear in the chain in order not to sound boring.

post #741 of 1508

The other infamous non-Tesla Beyers are, DT880 and DT660.

post #742 of 1508
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What if it's not the seal creating the improved bass response, but the distance decrease between the driver and the ear?

 

That absolutely could be the case. I have precisely zero training in acoustics or anything related to it, so the

'thicker pads' supposition come from the experiences I've had changing pads on the T5p in the past and, essentially, wildly uneducated guesses. The good news is that if you try a pad and it doesn't do what you want, you haven't destroyed the headphone in the process, so it's a pretty low-risk endeavor. 

 

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Hey, has anyone seen this great review on youtube, he basically echoes my experience to a T, great review!

 

Yep, love how much the guy digs the T5p. I do wish he'd bullet-point his thoughts beforehand and streamline it down from almost 18 minutes, but anybody that like the T5p has gotta be at least partly awesome IMO ;). 

 

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If you have the T5p and DT-1350 already you will NOT NEED the T70p normal_smile%20.gif Though the T70p is a VERY good headphone indeed. I spend a long time deciding whether I liked the T70p or the T5p best living with both of them for two months. It is THAT good - now that you know the T5p. At the end I ended up listening to T5p the most but the T70/T70p is a headphone you must try if you like the bright Beyerdynamic house-sound! It has such an intimate and crystal clear sound but demands a lot from the source and other gear in the chain in order not to sound boring.

 

Great feedback here man, thank you! Sounds like I should pass on the T70/p. And now I'm talking with a fellow about possibly getting a pair of LFF Paradox cans... It never ends ;). 

post #743 of 1508
Sounds like T70p has the technical quality of T5p but not the musicality?
post #744 of 1508
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Sounds like T70p has the technical quality of T5p but not the musicality?

I guess some would put it that way. But it depends on genre I think. T5p is more versatile when it comes to being good at play all genres. The T70/T70p might not be the first choice for music demanding more weight and bassimpact. But for everything else T70 have a very intimate and open sound which I do not know of any other headphone to come even close to playing like they do. I think my TZAR 350 IEM is the one that comes closest. 

post #745 of 1508
I have just started a thread in the High End section of the forum for all those who love Beyerdynamics Tesla Technology, I thought it would be great to embrace in one place all the Tesla models as i feel the technology is High end no matter which models we own! So hope on over and join in, lets show those high end Johhnies us Tesla fans have a rightful place in their high end club biggrin.gif

http://www.head-fi.org/t/660347/beyerdynamic-tesla-appreciation-society
post #746 of 1508

Bought the t5 and t5 just arrived today. I'm listening as I'm typing. It's just  out o the box. Coming from Ie8
1st thing I notice is the soundstage separation and layering or instruments, however it is still not what I'm seeking. Alot of people dislike the bass, but for me is adequate, clean and extended bass but the vibration,impact and pulse not that strong. Mid is clear and resolution is great as well regardless the tonal and frequency and damping transition per unit time not that  great. High , clear and clean and no sibilance detected. despite it is definitely not smooth and sounds spiky as in transition within the high frequency range. 
Overall sound quality is just okay. Doesn't sound as >1k usd at all. For me , SQ of hd650> T5p for the time being which is just out of the box. 

Anyone can enlighten me on this or I might return as SQ doesn't differ that much from IE8.

post #747 of 1508
If I am reading correctly your wanting that sort of bass "feeling" as well as sound? I find it increased slightly as the headphones gained hours usage but if your wanting that visceral feeling that some more bass accentuated headphones give then these may not be for you. However I really encourage that you give these a good hundred hours burn in at least as the bass does get more feeling I have found but not so much as to overpower.

Of all the headphones I have used over the years this one is the one that has benefited the most from burn in.

Just out of interest what quality of music are you listening to? CD, Vinyl or files? If files then I cannot stress enough that these headphones will pick to pieces compressed files, they are very transparent which is a blessing with good quality being fed them and a curse with compressed files as you will hear that compression and what your describing to me sounds like the effects of compression.

Oh yes, I owned the IE8. These are night and day difference to them I feel. I got rid of my IE8's as the bass was far to wooly and undefined but did have that visceral feeling but if you like that sort of style then the T5P's may not be for you and something like the D5000's (of which I have owned) may be more to your liking.

However.. Give these a chance as they for me cover all basses perfectly. One of the best, if not the best all round headphone I have owned.
Edited by ianmedium - 4/24/13 at 8:14am
post #748 of 1508

This is my very first high end headphone so I'm not really sure what to expect. My whim comparison of t5p and hd650 was sole based on 1 time auditioning from jaben, so is not that realiable anyway. I value the details, natural transition of tone, natural reproduction of sound, spectral decay and finally soundstage in terms of width, depth, separation, instrument layering and solid center point. 

I listen mostly to Baroque classical music that exclude vocal, orchestra , rock and metal. 
Quality of music , I use FLAC most of the time, the least is 320kbps mp3 file. 
 

post #749 of 1508
Ahh, you love Baroque!

I have a huge collection of Baroque and for me these are the best headphones I have listened to for that genre of music. They really convey the texture and delicacy so well I feel. What you value the T5P's give so well. I think many would disagree with me on this but I feel headphones of this quality have to be listened to for a while to be able to "get" what they do. What can initially seem bright or lacking in fact is the very thing that makes them great, the ability to resolve and extract detail and yet remain musical.

I personally would not use the 320k files with these headphones. The folks over on the sound science forum would say I talk nonsense but there is difference in SQ to my ears and that difference is in terms of emotional involvement. FLAC is perfect though.

Also these really benefit from quality amping to get the very best out of them.

This is the thing with the higher end stuff, it needs ancillaries that are a match for hit. Lower quality stuff usually hides so much that it seems they are easier to get along with but the higher end products though more temperamental are worth the effort I have found in terms of musical engagement when paired with things of equal quality.

I think these are made for tube amps, I love the sound of mine with my tube amp.

What other equipment are you using?
post #750 of 1508

I see, 10813 T5p. I don't use amp and I'm not into that yet since I'm a college student aspiring to be theoretical physicist that have tight schedule and heavy work load. So generally, I don't have time for these yet. This is true because before purchasing stuff like this I will do alot of research theoretically in terms of measurements and practically in terms of auditioning. Hence, I'm stuck with my 4k usd self customized pc with asus xonar D2x soundcard as DAC and my coolermaster UCP silver grade 1100 watts to drive it. If i ever want to use amp, I would have gone to hd800,t1 or more preferably stax 009.
Thanks for taking time to reply me . I sincerely appreciate it. 

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