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post #1081 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post
 

 

Apologies for the late reply-- I've been off HF for a while. I don't believe they are available anymore, but beyerdynamic made clear gel pads that fit the T5p (an example from a closed classified is here, if it helps). They can still be found used from time to time, and if you come across a pair, I'd still recommend them-- best pads I've heard on the T5p thus far (from an admittedly small sample set, but nonetheless). And yes, I've tried the stock pads (naturally) and the J$ pads in addition to the gels. I'm having trouble finding my notes on the differences (I've changed computers since I wrote them), but as I recall the gels are the least comfortable of the three by a small margin and the ugliest of the three by a mile, but they isolate better and improve the bass response (very brief mention here). If I can find my original notes, I'll try to copy them here. 

 

If you have any other questions, please let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. Overall, I think they are absolutely worth the $30-or-so that they typically show up for used. Hope this was at least somewhat helpful! 

 

And if you have a set of T5ps, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who would love to hear your thoughts on them!! :dt880smile: 

 

Edit: Missed your question about other mods. The mod most commonly referenced with these is switching to a balanced cable, which at least three companies (BTG-Audio, Moon Audio, and Jaben-- but Jaben won't do the mod by itself, you have to buy new cans fully modded) offer. The consensus, such as it is, appears to be universally positive, and I plan on having BTG mod mine as well at some point. There might be other mods, but I'm either unaware of them or unable to recall them at the moment ;). 

 

I was actually thinking of trying some Alpha Pads! LOL!

Will order at least 1 pair of those this week for another set I have but will try and see if they fit.

 

I did speak a bit about them on my Alpha Dogs review:

 

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Also got some Beyerdynamic T5p with Blue Dragon cables, bought used. The only other Beyer I had was the DT770 Pro 80s which are basshead preferred and they don't sound anything alike. Anyway, I have to say that the T5p's are "Ok". Their highlight is definitely their mids, very clear, forward and just excellent. Soundstage and imaging are very good as well but their highs are a bit too much sometimes (maybe too revealing to my tastes or maybe they are too peaky?). Bass is actually quite anemic (surprising since the DT770s were so powerful) but what it shows it's good quality. These are very comfortable as well, good isolation and no leakage.

 

Comparison summary, 

 

Bass quantity: SRH1540 --> Alpha Dogs --> Beyer T5p
Bass quality: Alpha Dogs --> Beyer T5p --> SRH1540
Mids presentation: Beyer T5p --> Alpha Dogs --> SRH1540
Soundstage/imaging: Beyer T5p --> Alpha Dogs == SRH1540
Highs: Alpha Dogs --> SRH1540 --> Beyer T5p
Sound Isolation/Leakage: Alpha Dogs --> Beyer T5p --> SRH1540
Fun Factor: SRH1540 --> Alpha Dogs --> Beyer T5p
Price: Alpha Dogs == SRH1540 --> Beyer T5p

 

So, as mentioned, mine already have Blue Dragon cables with them, but I think I'm going to do something crazy soon (once I sell a few things...). I contacted Martin (Martin Custom Audio) and I think I'm going to have a Woodie T5p soon! LOL Yeah I know... ;)

 

Oh, and thanks for the response! ;-)

post #1082 of 1958

Thanks for sharing all that!! I tend to gravitate towards the slightly treble-tipped sound, but other than that I think your impressions are generally in line with the consensus here. And I know I can't be the only one that's very interested to hear how the T5p sounds with Alpha pads... and wood cups!!!

 

Man, when I think of taking a headphone this expensive and going to wood cups... It makes me realize I'm an utter wimp, because there's no way I could muster up the cojones to make it happen. Tip-of-the-cap to ya, good sir!

 

 

:tongue:

post #1083 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post
 

Thanks for sharing all that!! I tend to gravitate towards the slightly treble-tipped sound, but other than that I think your impressions are generally in line with the consensus here. And I know I can't be the only one that's very interested to hear how the T5p sounds with Alpha pads... and wood cups!!!

 

Man, when I think of taking a headphone this expensive and going to wood cups... It makes me realize I'm an utter wimp, because there's no way I could muster up the cojones to make it happen. Tip-of-the-cap to ya, good sir!

 

 

:tongue:

 

LOL LOL!

That made me laugh loud here at the office!!

 

Well, I figure, since I got these pretty cheap, I can spend another couple of hundreds and make it "original" and different (and would probably still not hit the original retail price for these). So I'm good... or bat...crazy! I'll definitely keep you posted as this will probably happen soon. ;-)

post #1084 of 1958

Wood cups? Interesting project... closed or semi-open like the Fostex TH900?

 

I think its not that hard to do as Beyerdynamic builds them to be repairable...

post #1085 of 1958
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Originally Posted by plakat View Post
 

Wood cups? Interesting project... closed or semi-open like the Fostex TH900?

 

I think its not that hard to do as Beyerdynamic builds them to be repairable...

 

Definitely closed.

I don't really use open cans or semi-open since then I wouldn't be able to use them at work. (which is why my Lawton-modded headphones are for home use at the moment!).

post #1086 of 1958

Wow, killer project!! Yeah, please do keep us updated, as that will definitely be a unique undertaking. It'll be interesting to see how well the Tesla drivers take to wood cups... Looking forward to seeing this one!!

post #1087 of 1958

Very interesting endeavour. Do you plan to assemble it yourself or get it done by Martin Custom Audio?

Please keep us posted. Plus: Photos ;-)

post #1088 of 1958
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Originally Posted by plakat View Post
 

Very interesting endeavour. Do you plan to assemble it yourself or get it done by Martin Custom Audio?

Please keep us posted. Plus: Photos ;-)

 

I'm a mess doing stuff myself so definitely it will be all done by Martin.

And of course. ;)

post #1089 of 1958

Understandable ;-)

A pity nevertheless as I'd be very interested to see the interior of the cups. On the other hand... I wouldn't do it myself either.

 

Looking forward to your photos and impressions.

post #1090 of 1958
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

Anyway, I have to say that the T5p's are "Ok".

 

I've had the T5p for a couple of weeks...I traded a T1 for it.

 

At first I thought it was just okay too.  I had them both with me for a little bit and I kept comparing it to the T1 - the open version sounded way better to me...and the T5p was just okay.  I did not listen to it much because I have a new HD800 (its hard to put the Sennheiser down).  Since the T5p was not getting much use, I decided to trade it for an amp.  

 

Since they will be gone soon (I think...the more I listen to them the more I want to keep them) I've been listening to them exclusively...and I they've gone from sounding just okay to being incredible.   Give them more time before you send them off for modification.   I haven't heard a better sealed headphone (one that actually has outstanding isolation).


Edited by elvergun - 1/19/14 at 1:13pm
post #1091 of 1958
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

I've had the T5p for a couple of weeks...I traded a T1 fo it.

At first I thought it was just okay too.  I had them both with me for a little bit and I kept comparing it to the T1 - the open version sounded way better to me...and the T5p was just okay.  I did not listen to it much because I have a new HD800 (its hard to put the Sennheiser down).  Since the T5p was not getting much use, I decided to trade it for an amp.  

Since they will be gone soon (I think...the more I listen to them the more I want to keep them) I've been listening to them exclusively...and I they've gone from sounding just okay to being incredible.   Give them more time before you send them off for modification.   I haven't heard a better sealed headphone (one that actually has outstanding isolation).

Funny how that works huh? Actually I've been using them more (have them on right now and comparing some DAPs -- X3, X5 and AK100 mk2) and I think like you they are more than Okay! Still miss a bit of bass quantity, especially subbass and treble is definitely uneven but they are not bad!

Still, I will send them for mods next week ;-) Already selected the wood option, hopefully it will look excellent and maybe even change in sound sig. If not, got another set of Alpha Pads... will check how they work (if they work OK)

Thanks!
post #1092 of 1958
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post


Funny how that works huh? Actually I've been using them more (have them on right now and comparing some DAPs -- X3, X5 and AK100 mk2) and I think like you they are more than Okay! Still miss a bit of bass quantity, especially subbass and treble is definitely uneven but they are not bad!

Still, I will send them for mods next week ;-) Already selected the wood option, hopefully it will look excellent and maybe even change in sound sig. If not, got another set of Alpha Pads... will check how they work (if they work OK)

Thanks!

 

When I listen to the T5p after using the HD800 I don't feel I'm getting an inferior sound...just a different signature...and a signature I can actually enjoy when my girlfriend is making a racket around the house.  The T5p makes my K550 seem like a children's toy.  Still, I'm not sure I'm going to keep the T5p since its just going to be just sitting on the bench waiting for the rare occasion when it will replace the HD800 (quite and expensive backup can).

 

You better post some pictures when you get the T5p back.  :L3000:

post #1093 of 1958
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

 

When I listen to the T5p after using the HD800 I don't feel I'm getting an inferior sound...just a different signature...and a signature I can actually enjoy when my girlfriend is making a racket around the house.  The T5p makes my K550 seem like a children's toy.  Still, I'm not sure I'm going to keep the T5p since its just going to be just sitting on the bench waiting for the rare occasion when it will replace the HD800 (quite and expensive backup can).

 

 

I got the T5p with the purpose of listening at work and while travelling, when some isolation is required. My main rig at home includes the HD800 as well, and I expected it to be rather hard to challenge. 

 

The reality is that on the weekends I keep bringing the T5p back home with me, as often I prefer them over the HD800, especially after I modded them. I have added some soft foam inside the cups, as I didn't like the idea of sound waves bouncing off a plastic surface. This has changed the presentation to be a bit softer and more fun.

 

This makes me very interested in the impressions regarding the wood cups, as that may change the sound in a similar way. 

post #1094 of 1958
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Originally Posted by PleasantSounds View Post

 

I got the T5p with the purpose of listening at work and while travelling, when some isolation is required. My main rig at home includes the HD800 as well, and I expected it to be rather hard to challenge. 

 

The reality is that on the weekends I keep bringing the T5p back home with me, as often I prefer them over the HD800, especially after I modded them. I have added some soft foam inside the cups, as I didn't like the idea of sound waves bouncing off a plastic surface. This has changed the presentation to be a bit softer and more fun.

 

This makes me very interested in the impressions regarding the wood cups, as that may change the sound in a similar way. 

 

Man, you guys modding such a pricey set of cans... cajones like grapefruit, one can only assume. (No confirmation/refutation needed, TIA!)

 

Would you happen to have any more information on the mod that you did? Pics, type of materials (foam) used, more detailed impressions on SQ alterations as a result? I don't think I'd personally like my set to sound softer, but I'm very interested in anything that could possibly wrangle even greater performance from these babies. 

 

Almost a year later, I'm still just flabbergasted that these aren't more popular than this around here... 

post #1095 of 1958
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post
 

 

Man, you guys modding such a pricey set of cans... cajones like grapefruit, one can only assume. (No confirmation/refutation needed, TIA!)

 

Would you happen to have any more information on the mod that you did? Pics, type of materials (foam) used, more detailed impressions on SQ alterations as a result? I don't think I'd personally like my set to sound softer, but I'm very interested in anything that could possibly wrangle even greater performance from these babies. 

 

Almost a year later, I'm still just flabbergasted that these aren't more popular than this around here... 

 

No stress: this mod is totally reversible. The hardest part is to take the transducers out of the cups (at least for the first time), as the fit is very tight. I have cut circles the size of metal plates on the outside (about 70mm diameter) out of 8mm soft packaging foam. It's thick enough so that the back of the transducer presses it lightly against the cup, holding it in one place. If you try something thinner then perhaps a better way would be to cut it to the full diameter of the cup (ca. 85mm) so it won't rattle inside. Different foam thickness and density may give you a different response. 

Regarding the sound characteristics, they haven't lost any of the clarity or precision. The soundstage is still huge for a closed can, with great instrument separation. If anything, the separation has improved: on good recordings it is razor sharp. But the biggest impact I notice is that mids sound absolutely natural. In the stock form they were somewhat artificial, plasticky. I also have an impression that the bass is deeper, capable of rattling my brains when it's called for. The HD800 just can't do that.

The changes are subtle but real. I can't compare the modded T5p directly to the stock one, but I did comparisons to the HD800 before and after. While I had the T5p in stock form, the HD800 always felt more capable. Now the HDs still have the edge in size of soundstage and detail retrieval, but the T5p is more engaging.

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