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post #31 of 106

Oh no, REF8 has NO ACSS out. The printing is wrong, it is only another RCA out.

Write to kingwa for this misunderstanding to sort it out.

 

Don't say it here they mark down the price, otherwise...

post #32 of 106
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no they havent marked down the price otherwise i would be more regretful.

 

too bad i purchased right before(one day or two) they updated their website and it's only 40bucks more for the acss output and usb input...

 

sigh they should've let me know had they decided to release the new version by the time i made the purchase and this info is not yet released on the web.

 

their dac is great, their communication is fast,but...sigh......


Edited by superjohny - 6/30/10 at 4:24am
post #33 of 106

Ref 8 doesn't work in current mode, it works in voltage mode, so ACSS wouldn't help it :p. For example, if you output ref 8 XLR to an amp that works in current mode, the amp will convert voltage to current then work in current itself.

 

Don't worry about usb input, for the longest time audio-gd only allowed bnc and rca coaxial on their top tier dac's because they think its best, they're adding more inputs to satisfy customers who would connect a computer to their dac's, and a computer is hardly near audiophile grade transport.

post #34 of 106
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It could be his hearing that adjusted
 


Obviously :)

post #35 of 106

Kingwa's "musical" gear does not use ACSS.

post #36 of 106

superjhony: Maybe a Phoenix, being very neutral, would complement it.  The only thing is, you'd need a decent pair of XLR cables for best results IMO.

post #37 of 106

Thanks guys, I know Australians have to pay tax if the value is over $1000 but I'm just wondering whether KingWa declares the value a bit lower?

post #38 of 106
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Hi, Museman, they usually put down the value for USD500 so duty and tax is not required.





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Thanks guys, I know Australians have to pay tax if the value is over $1000 but I'm just wondering whether KingWa declares the value a bit lower?

post #39 of 106

Hi,

 

I understand you said he usually declares it at $500 but then you said this and confused me a bit!
 

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if i recall it right, eg item = 1200

 

item AUD1200

shipping = 120

duty = (1200+120)*5% 

taxable amount = item+shipping+duty

GST = taxable*10%

 

total to pay = 1200+GST+DUTY

 

Headroom only claims the actual value which made me not buying or at least postpone buying BUDA+DPS which is an extra AUD400 i need to pay for tax.


Thanks.

post #40 of 106
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Originally Posted by superjohny View Post

no they havent marked down the price otherwise i would be more regretful.

 

too bad i purchased right before(one day or two) they updated their website and it's only 40bucks more for the acss output and usb input...

 

sigh they should've let me know had they decided to release the new version by the time i made the purchase and this info is not yet released on the web.

 

their dac is great, their communication is fast,but...sigh......


The USB version does not have ACSS output either. Where did you get that from?

 

I'll admit the picture was misleading, but if you'd read the Audio-gd page you'd know that the Reference 8 uses diamond differential output and not ACSS (Reference 7) as it's tuned for a musical sound, whereas ACSS is neutral sounding. The URL to that picture also does clearly say 'RE7USB' - Reference 7 USB version.

post #41 of 106
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Originally Posted by MuseMan View Post

Hi,

 

I understand you said he usually declares it at $500 but then you said this and confused me a bit!
 


Thanks.

 

sorry to confuse, i was just making an example. it has nothing got to do with the purchase price.
 

post #42 of 106
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The USB version does not have ACSS output either. Where did you get that from?

 

I'll admit the picture was misleading, but if you'd read the Audio-gd page you'd know that the Reference 8 uses diamond differential output and not ACSS (Reference 7) as it's tuned for a musical sound, whereas ACSS is neutral sounding. The URL to that picture also does clearly say 'RE7USB' - Reference 7 USB version.


yea, it's a bit misleading of using ref7's pic on the ref8's description page making me think this is a ref8. you wouldn't put iphone3's pic on the page for iphone 4, would you?

 

but it's all good now, kingwa has explained everything to me , it's just some printing error (accidentally print acss on ref8's cae). 

post #43 of 106
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Kingwa's "musical" gear does not use ACSS.



I feel ACSS would be a complete waste as it was aimed at neutral reporduction of music,something I'am currently enjoying

post #44 of 106

The benefits of amplifying and transmitting the music in the current domain is that the parts and cables degrade the sound less than with voltage amplification.  I suppose if you intend to have a coloured sound in the first place, this is rather pointless.

post #45 of 106

Well a musical source with musical pre-amp can be a good pairing with studio monitors although musical is relative, a neutral signal should be musical as it is the essence of music but it is less forgiving.


Edited by Omega17TheTrue - 7/1/10 at 5:03am
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