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The original cd pressing is emphasized and I ripped it to flac just so I could hear what it is like without de emphasizing and man it was rly loud treble. The cymbol hits were ear shattering. The bells in time destroyed your ear. I de emphasized them them and they sound good now and my cd player de emphasizes it as well from the original cd. The only way to hear it without the de emph is to rip it to flac. I did some research and the cd I have is actually the first pressing of the first mastering one from the very first batch it ends in - 2   1a1 on the cd matrix information and has sony cbs recording inside the inner clear plastic. The cd is from the first batch of DSotM ever printed in the world. That why it was worth paying 140 for its just cool to own the very very first pressing of dsotm also in perfect condition totally scratchless bottom and cd case and booklets perfect just some tiny folds.

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If I had a time machine I'd totally be visiting abbey road studios during the DSotM recordings. Would be amazing to be there.

 

Pick up a copy of the Classic Album series DVD "Dark Side of the Moon". Lots of studio scenes filmed during DSotM, plus interviews. Also, Pink Floyd "Live at Pompeii" has studio footage from the same time period. Both are well worth owning if you're a Floyd fan.
 

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ill have to check that out.

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SACD 30th anniversary edition: Now I've never heard the actual SACD DSD layer of this cd, the stereo or 5.1 layer, as I don't have a SACD player. But I have heard the standard cd layer of this mastering and yea its less resolution compared to the SACD layer but the mastering is still the same and I highly doubt a lil more bandwidth over 16 bit 44.1khz is gonna make a night and day difference its still the same master. Regardless this version is almost as bad as the 20th anniversary. It's like their is some filter veil over it taking away all the crispness of the highs. My assumption is the original masters are just not what they used to be.


The CD layer is noticeably inferior to the SACD layer. The SACD layer is all you really need, and it has zero surface noise. If you're going to spend that much money on different versions, just get a cheap SACD player and be done with it.

 

Early CD releases sometimes were transferred flat, without allowing for the equalization that was added during mastering to correct for errors in the LP manufacturing process. Later releases corrected these errors, at least on the classical CDs that I know suffered from this.


Edited by bigshot - 6/25/10 at 8:03pm
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... The SACD layer is all you really need, ...


I wouldn't quite go that far.  If you're only going to have one version the SACD is the one to have.  However there is room for having two versions if you're a fan of the album. 

 

The SACD and the older masters each have a different feeling to them as you listen.  The SACD is more of an analytical listen to the album.  It wants you to actively listen and pay attention to the individual notes and various individual sounds in the album, and that style of listening can distract from the album as a whole.  The older masters though are more of a passive listen where you pay more attention to the album as a whole and the flow of the album and is a more relaxing listen.  Two different styles of sound.  In headphone terms the SACD is like listening to the album on a Grado SR325is while the older masters are like listening to a Sennheiser HD600. 

 

So to be complete I'd suggest having the SACD version and one of the older (pre 1992, pre Doug Sax remaster) versions with the Holy Grail master being the ultimate choice and the MFSL being a second choice (or vice versa depending on your personal preference).  Both styles of Dark Side of the Moon have their purpose.

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So to be complete I'd suggest having the SACD version and one of the older (pre 1992, pre Doug Sax remaster) versions with the Holy Grail master being the ultimate choice and the MFSL being a second choice (or vice versa depending on your personal preference).  Both styles of Dark Side of the Moon have their purpose.


That's exactly what I would recommend.

post #22 of 44

Not just that, but if you own a turntable, having DSOTM on vinyl is just plain mandatory.

post #23 of 44

I bought a cheap SACD player largely just for the SACD version of DSOTM. 

 

The emi/toshiba black triangle is fantastic. But you won't find an official copy for less than a mortgage payment, I don't think. If you can find a friend who has a copy to play for you, I'd recommend hearing it.  The main advantage to the SACD is its availability -- if I had to listen to just one digital version, it'd be the redbook black triangle release.

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The older masters though are more of a passive listen where you pay more attention to the album as a whole and the flow of the album and is a more relaxing listen..



Take the analogue two channel output of the SACD and run it through a 1970s cassette deck with the input volume a little bit too hot and just monitor it without a tape in the machine. Then turn down the treble a tiny bit. It will sound just like that.
post #25 of 44

"IT's" not even my favorite PF recording, but do get them all, IMO (see list below)

 

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Not just that, but if you own a turntable, having DSOTM on vinyl is just plain mandatory.


Yes indeed Skylab,IN no order, The Original British copy, The Mobile Fidelity copy, the 30th Anniversary Edition copy, the original usa copy and if you can find it the Japaneses copy!! All on Vinyl, and people think I'm crazy about my LPs, Say What?? I have the MO-FI-Gold CD but would Love to hear the sacd version........ 
 

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Take the analogue two channel output of the SACD and run it through a 1970s cassette deck with the input volume a little bit too hot and just monitor it without a tape in the machine. Then turn down the treble a tiny bit. It will sound just like that.


LOL! I thought I was the only one who knew stuff like that.

post #27 of 44
Another vote here for the SACD layer of DSoTM. Even if you aren't willing to buy a SACD player for DSoTM, be sure to consider the rest of the SACD catalog. If you're a fan of classical or jazz, being able to play Scarlet Book discs is a wonderful option.
post #28 of 44

I think almost all the Sax remasters sound great. That black triangle of DSOTM is something else, though.

post #29 of 44

Out of those versions you have, how would you rate them?  Just curious how the 30th Anniversary vinyl stacks up against the others since that's the one I have. 
 

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"IT's" not even my favorite PF recording, but do get them all, IMO (see list below)

 


Yes indeed Skylab,IN no order, The Original British copy, The Mobile Fidelity copy, the 30th Anniversary Edition copy, the original usa copy and if you can find it the Japaneses copy!! All on Vinyl, and people think I'm crazy about my LPs, Say What?? I have the MO-FI-Gold CD but would Love to hear the sacd version........ 
 

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Out of those versions you have, how would you rate them?  Just curious how the 30th Anniversary vinyl stacks up against the others since that's the one I have. 
 


 


golgi, The 30th Anniversary vinyl sounds very clean a little better then the Original USA version...I, myself like the Mo- Fi LP.the best, even while many have said "IT'S" tipped up on the top end.... I had a couple of (Vinyl only) guys over one night and (No Lie) they made me play this track on this LP then back to the other pressing same track until I was just Comfortably Numb, pun intended, from doing the a/b test of them all.....I stick to what sounds best on my system and usually will always choose the same LP of DSOTM......Just think I placeeeeboed my ass again........So, you can't go wrong with your 30th Anniversary pressing.......IMO
 

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