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post #16 of 27

I would say that DACs to tend to sound the same. The differences in audio quality come along with all of the other components inside the box with the DAC -- power transformers, circuitry, capacitors, specific arrangement of parts, the analog output stage, etc. The DAC chips themselves by this point are pretty spot on. It's the stuff they fit in with that makes most of the difference.  

  

That said, does anyone have any reference for machine-measurements of the outputs of different dac chips? Just because we can't blind test a difference between chips doesn't mean there isn't a fraction of a percent difference in THD or whatever among them.

 

And about the noise you're experiencing -- interference, power, ground loops, etc. A lot of electricity moving around in side a computer, creates a lot of interference. this gives you a louder noise floor when you use sensitive headphones to listen for it. Perhaps by hooking the speakers in first, and then the headphones into them, you are adding resistance or something that is muting out that noisefloor a little more? I'm no electrician so someone who knows the exact reasons for this would need to chime in.
 

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This post was extremely informative. My understanding of this post is that all DAC's should be the same then? if they aren't converting the 1's and 0's into the correct analogue signal then the music would sound completely different? Does that mean the Cheap DAC's should cost the same as the expensive DAC's? Also what do you mean by quiet? Is this to stop sensitive headphones from hissing or hearing an electrical noise? When I connect my e10's to the line out of the PC mobo, I get electrical noise. Even when I connect the speakers to the mobo line out and then my e10's to the line out of the speaker, but the noise isn't as loud. Does this have anything to do with this topic?

 


 

 



 


Edited by Timestretch - 1/12/12 at 12:46pm
post #17 of 27

I am an electrician (well a trainee anyway biggrin.gif) but we don't really cover microelectronics as much.

post #18 of 27


I'm just an office man, so to me, an electrician is basically an electric magician.

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I am an electrician (well a trainee anyway biggrin.gif) but we don't really cover microelectronics as much.



 

post #19 of 27
I know what a DAC does, but I don't understand this-
People connect DACs after computers in their chain, but surely the signal is already in analogue from the built-in DAC? Does this mean stand alone DACs just improve the analogue signal or does the computer somehow cleverly detect it's there and not bother with it's own d-a conversion? I'm confused. And sorry to add this to an old thread, but ya know, better then starting a new one isn't it?

Joe
post #20 of 27
Your operating system has configuration facilities to tell your PC what DAC to use, the onboard one or the external one. So your external DAC is indeed only getting digital data, not analog data. The onboard DAC doesn't get used at all.
post #21 of 27

Ah, thanks for getting bak to me. You don't happen to know how to configure the DAC settings on mac OS X?

post #22 of 27
I don't know about Mac OS X, sorry.
post #23 of 27

Thanks a lot anyway!

post #24 of 27
Originally Posted by onlyjoekin View Post
You don't happen to know how to configure the DAC settings on mac OS X?

 

There’s nothing DAC specific which needs to be configured in Mac OS X. Just connect your DAC via USB or optical SPDIF (Toslink), visit System Preferences > Sound, choose the connection and you’re done. It might be useful to run Utilities > Audio MIDI Setup and check the sampling rate and bit depth for the selected audio output device. For standard CD audio playback the options should be set to 44100 Hertz and 2ch-16 bit Integer.

 

Werner.

post #25 of 27

Ah, thank you for this. I'm in danger of hijacking this thread, but what does the 'bit integer' mean? 'bits' are data aren't they, so does it mean how long the gap is between each bit sent? If you don't ask, you don't learn!

 

 

Joe

post #26 of 27
Look it up on Wikipedia: Pulse Code Modulation, bit depth, sampling rate.
Edited by skamp - 3/23/12 at 11:11pm
post #27 of 27

Thanks again, I did try looking it up before posting but didn't really know what keywords to use. Makes for some technical reading!

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