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What kind of dac are you usimng with the w4? I found them to be incredibly fast and even faster with the algorhythm solo. As fast as the akg k701 or faster which imo the 701s are pretty fast imo..I was suprised at how they can keep up with edm, dance, trance, techno ect tyey have this overall effortlessness to them.

 

I agree! I think the HD-650 is full and balanced. What I was saying is, going from the HD-650 which is more full/balanced and the LCD-2 (which is dark), to the 4R (which is more fast/and detailed) - is a big jump for me. That because I'm so used to full sounding headphones, the 4R's sound thin. Although you are saying these are supposed to be warmer than the HD-650. Hmmm. I understand what you are saying, I guess what I'm hearing and what these are supposed to sound like aren't really lining up (hence these last couple of posts from you guys). 

 

 

I'm using the Schiit Lyr/Bifrost combo btw. 


EDIT: I'll try to mess around with the different tips. I might not be getting a proper seal. 


Edited by satanigatan - 8/31/13 at 2:44pm
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Okay, it was definitely the seal. I used the tip of my fingers to run along the top of the IEM and they weren't all the way in my ears. I pulled out my IEM and squeezed the foam tips and re-put them in, and now they have sat in my ears properly. They sound much better! :) 

 

EDIT: BTW, sorry for posting about the 4R in this thread. I know it's off topic. I'll make sure to post my impressions of the 535 when I get them in on Tuesday. 


Edited by satanigatan - 8/31/13 at 2:57pm
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BOTTOM LINE: If you do not require a big slammin bass or if bass is not super important,  The W4 may serve you better than SE535.

 

But if bass and an aggressive authoritative forward presentation is important...the SE535 craps all over the W4.

 

I found W4 THE best universal IEM for vocal and acoustic music, period.


Edited by Spyro - 9/1/13 at 10:00am
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I'll probably end up keeping both. I see the value in both of these sound signatures. Can't wait to try the SE-535. :)

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BOTTOM LINE: If you do not require a big slammin bass or if bass is not super importand,  The W4 will serve you better than SE535 no question.

 

But if bass and an aggressive authoritage forward presentation is important...the SE535 pisses all over the W4.

 

I found W4 THE best universal IEM for vocal and acoustic music, period.

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Originally Posted by satanigatan View Post

 

I agree! I think the HD-650 is full and balanced. What I was saying is, going from the HD-650 which is more full/balanced and the LCD-2 (which is dark), to the 4R (which is more fast/and detailed) - is a big jump for me. That because I'm so used to full sounding headphones, the 4R's sound thin. Although you are saying these are supposed to be warmer than the HD-650. Hmmm. I understand what you are saying, I guess what I'm hearing and what these are supposed to sound like aren't really lining up (hence these last couple of posts from you guys). 

 

I'm using the Schiit Lyr/Bifrost combo btw. 


EDIT: I'll try to mess around with the different tips. I might not be getting a proper seal. 

 

Are you using any eq or anything on the amp?  The w4 treble is softer and less detailed than the hd650.  What you could be hearing is a greater level of detail because the earphone isolate noise and make it easier to focus on things.  The 4r are great, and the bass won't sound the same as the hd650 in that the 650 will have better impact and be more speaker like, but the 4r should be warmer in the sense that it has more mid bass which makes the treble seem softer and overall less distinct.

 

If you're familiar with eq, try using an eq app and cutting 200hz a few decibels with a wide q value to get the star and end of the curve at about 50-800hz.  Then eq down 10khz a few decibels with the q value being small-medium to cover between 8-14khz or so.  And lastly eq 3khz up a few decibels with a medium q value to get between 1.5k and 7k.  You're curve should end up looking like a smoothed out W.  Something like this: http://handtokey.blogspot.com/2013/02/westone-4r-eq-settings.html   Let me know what you think after you use it a bit. :-)  It makes them very flat.

 

However, if your amp has a high output impedance above say 32ohms, you don't have to cut the midbass as much.


Edited by luisdent - 8/31/13 at 7:22pm
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Help!

I know this is a SE535 thread but my SE530 nozzle just snapped as I was changing tips.  

Can't believe it snapped so easily. 

Is this common and has anyone sent them off to shure to fix them and how much?

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Help!

I know this is a SE535 thread but my SE530 nozzle just snapped as I was changing tips.  

Can't believe it snapped so easily. 

Is this common and has anyone sent them off to shure to fix them and how much?

 

I believe it depends whether they are under warranty or not. If its past the two year warranty period, they'll probably offer you an upgrade to a SE535 for $240.

 

Instructions for returns are here: http://www.shure.com/americas/support/service-repair

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Originally Posted by sling5s View Post

Help!

I know this is a SE535 thread but my SE530 nozzle just snapped as I was changing tips.  

Can't believe it snapped so easily. 

Is this common and has anyone sent them off to shure to fix them and how much?

Shure will charge you something like $250 to replace it with SE535. But I think getting it reshelled my UM(universal) is cheaper. SE535 is not different from SE530(besides the replaceable cables).

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I recently bought the Shure SE535 and now I'm wondering whether or not I should have bought the Shure SE846 instead. Did I make a mistake for not waiting on the Shure SE846? 


Edited by ubs28 - 9/1/13 at 8:55am
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I recently bought the Shure SE535 and now I'm wondering whether or not I should have bought the Shure SE846 instead. Did I make a mistake for not waiting on the Shure SE846? 

IMO yes, if the 846 would have been in your budget IMO from specs and reading up alot of the 846 they are definitly a jump in quality from the 535...... thats not to say the 535 arent a great iem, they are in the top id say 10 teir universal iem. but the 846 are new, and new technology.

 

i personally am titor tottering on the 846, i LOVE my W4r and dont know if it would be worth going from the W4r to the 846 becuase i feel the w4 fulfill my needs, but its just that new car smell if you get my drift with the 846.

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I recently bought the Shure SE535 and now I'm wondering whether or not I should have bought the Shure SE846 instead. Did I make a mistake for not waiting on the Shure SE846? 

Depends. I've heard reviewers in Korea saying that SE846 was like mid and treble of SE535 plus bass of IE800(slightly worse than IE800 actually). They said that treble was still rolled off.

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Is it $600 better? ( I paid $400 for the Shure SE535 and the price of the Shure SE846 is $999 ) 

 

I have the budget, but I'm thinking to myself it might make more sense to spend my money on a good headphone like the HD800 instead of an other IEM which might be only marginally better?

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I recently bought the Shure SE535 and now I'm wondering whether or not I should have bought the Shure SE846 instead. Did I make a mistake for not waiting on the Shure SE846? 

 

Would not necessarily say so as compared to 10 years ago there is just so much more choice in the IEM game. All my IEM offer something different. The most interesting are the smaller names that are slotting in the 500 price-point (insert currency of choice) and attempting to redefine expectations at what is possible at the previous TOTL universal price-point. Which is no bad thing to encourage, cannot say am particularly thrilled by this new 1k barrier game (even though it puts no-one off wink.gif)

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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post

Is it $600 better? ( I paid $400 for the Shure SE535 and the price of the Shure SE846 is $999 ) 

 

I have the budget, but I'm thinking to myself it might make more sense to spend my money on a good headphone like the HD800 instead of an other IEM which might be only marginally better?

IDK. Many reviewers from Korea think not. I don't know what head-fiers think though. I haven't been following the SE846 thread.

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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

 

Would not necessarily say so as compared to 10 years ago there is just so much more choice in the IEM game. All my IEM offer something different. The most interesting are the smaller names that are slotting in the 500 price-point (insert currency of choice) and attempting to redefine expectations at what is possible at the previous TOTL universal price-point. Which is no bad thing to encourage, cannot say am particularly thrilled by this new 1k barrier game (even though it puts no-one off wink.gif)

I agree about the sudden price rage. I mean wtf? TOTL universal were $500 before. Now, they are $1200? WTF. Still, K3003 was jaw dropping for me. Too bad I haven't heard the SE846.

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