What kind of dac are you usimng with the w4? I found them to be incredibly fast and even faster with the algorhythm solo. As fast as the akg k701 or faster which imo the 701s are pretty fast imo..I was suprised at how they can keep up with edm, dance, trance, techno ect tyey have this overall effortlessness to them.
I agree! I think the HD-650 is full and balanced. What I was saying is, going from the HD-650 which is more full/balanced and the LCD-2 (which is dark), to the 4R (which is more fast/and detailed) - is a big jump for me. That because I'm so used to full sounding headphones, the 4R's sound thin. Although you are saying these are supposed to be warmer than the HD-650. Hmmm. I understand what you are saying, I guess what I'm hearing and what these are supposed to sound like aren't really lining up (hence these last couple of posts from you guys).
I'm using the Schiit Lyr/Bifrost combo btw.
EDIT: I'll try to mess around with the different tips. I might not be getting a proper seal.
Edited by satanigatan - 8/31/13 at 2:44pm