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post #616 of 903

Thanks Warp. I wish I could heard them on your setup may have felt differently.

post #617 of 903
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

Thanks Warp. I wish I could heard them on your setup may have felt differently.


Yeah, they were pretty good, but not as comfy as some of the other cans I have.  One of my favorite moments of having guests is to have them listen to headphones with stock cables before switching them out.  Really comical to watch as their eyes pop out and a Spock-like eyebrow-rise quickly following the act.

 

But then again, I deserve some gratification for spending $400 to recable $300 HD600s... 

post #618 of 903

Now that I have my LFP-V Edition Signature 30.2 and matching Isabella from Vinnie at RWA I look forward to trying this baby out!

post #619 of 903

Pretty please, don’t start a cable discussion here :¬}

I don’t think I can take it...

 

No seriously, thanks for your input Frank as your Magnepan ownership relates over here...

post #620 of 903
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I have finished my time with the HE6 and this will be much different than impressions as I have done in the past regarding most headphones. I did all listening of the HE6 with my Outlaw 2150RR 100W receiver which drives my Maggie MMG's in my two channel system and the main source I used was both the Onkyo DX7555 CD for redbook and the Sony 999ES Sacd player. Most of the music I listened to ranged from jazz,classical,rock and many well recorded vocal recordings.  The only music I did not listen was electronic or metal so all the impressions that I heard were based on my music in a system I am very familiar with. I would like to than Fang for the opportunity to be involved in this program and for all he offers to this community. A first class act all the way. In regards to the HE6 it is very well constructed has substantial weight yet lighter than the LCD2. Comfortable is what I would describe the fit pretty much like the HE5LE that I have also listened too.  Being a Maggie owner I have been curious to see how a planar headphone would sound.  I see this headphone appealing to some and others well will pass on it because of the power requirements necessary to get the most out of these headphones. The other issue is portability. These need to be connected to a speaker amp terminal to perform at theie best and as my previous   head flier Warp used 6K worth of amplification to post some of the most positive impressions yet on these fine headphones.

 

The Outlaws had no issues and drove these very well and they were pretty balanced in the system and sound well. The first issue I encountered was that my room which is 13W X 20 was rather a challenge with the cable that it came with. I needed to move a chair close to my equipment rack for my audition. I would see most buyers using this in a similar setup so the cable was is way too short. I would need a 20FT cable to listen in my normal position. Not too practical for my situation as I would not want a cable that long floating in my living room. Fang need to really think about building a cable for the same type of situation. The other thing based on the review Warp did I believe you will need really expensive amplification and a A type of source to get the most out of them.  I believe these may work for some people while most head fliers would prefer the other top tier cans to listen to as they are easier to drive than the HE6. Make no mistake about it the more watts the better they sound as do most planars and I say most because the LCD2 is so much easier to drive and in a different class in my opinion.

 

Well describing the sound I would say they are well  balanced with a decent sound stage. The bass is deep and controlled and the treble is well extended and has a fine sheen or as some refer to as sparkly, I found no major faults in any of the spectrum. They also lacked some focus compared to the LCD2 and they did not have the space or debt of either the HD800 or the T1. The major thing I noticed vocal presentation was so much better on the LCD2 but then nothing else is close to the LCD2 in that regard. The transparency was fair with the HE6. I really at no time was ever knocked out by their presentation or sound. I thought they were a step below the other contenders in getting me involved  in the music. I kept finding myself wanting to return to my other headphones. I found them while being very well balanced and neutral they were also dull in their sound. They just never really got me going.  Its like I said I found not major faults but compared to all the other I have listened too I preferred all of them over the HE6 including the D7000. I am trying to be as honest as I can be. For me they did not work but like I have said in the past others hear differently and they be more suited to other people.

 

As for my conclusions I think this will a rough road. The major issue I see will people be willing to sacrifice convenience and better sound and the portability of all the other contenders for a speakerphone. AKG tried this in the past with the K1000 and failed even though many love the K1000.  For some it may work and hopefully Fang will have great success with them as no one has worked harder to support this community. These are only my opinions and there have been many positive reviews posted here and I truly did wished they worked for me. They are well built like a German tank with all quality parts put into it. They are very nicely balanced but the musicality was the issue for me and I am sure many others will really like these.. If you want balanced neutral with great highs and good bass these cans may fit with what your looking to accomplish. I would have like to have heard them with more focus and better space and imaging. But IMO all the others worked better for me. if you are looking for a headphone to play with your speaker amp these may work for you.


Thanks for the detailed impressions - hopefully sometime in the future you can try them again in a different rig and see if the problem is due to poor synergy with your gear, or if they just aren't your cup of tea.  It's still a bit of an unknown how some speaker amps will respond to a 60 ohm load, instead of 4-8 ohm load we typically see with speakers.  I found a wide variation in sound between a 5 watt Travagans, 8 watt Qinpu A-3 and ZDT, 12 watt Nuforce, and 55 watt Yamaha.  The HE-6 sounded a bit different with each one of those amps, as did the K1000 when I had a pair.

post #621 of 903

so I got my computer up and running, and managed to fit my 80W Denon speaker amp behind the monitor on my desk, and was all ready to lay down on the floor and bliss out, but the HE6 bananna plugs don't fit into the Denon's speaker cable terminals.  It has the kind with a little hole and spring loaded clamps. 

 

Can I wire the banana plugs to the amp with speaker cable?  Seems like it couldn't hurt as long as I make sure the wires don't touch or cross, but given the price of these phones I thought I should ask first...

post #622 of 903
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so I got my computer up and running, and managed to fit my 80W Denon speaker amp behind the monitor on my desk, and was all ready to lay down on the floor and bliss out, but the HE6 bananna plugs don't fit into the Denon's speaker cable terminals.  It has the kind with a little hole and spring loaded clamps. 

 

Can I wire the banana plugs to the amp with speaker cable?  Seems like it couldn't hurt as long as I make sure the wires don't touch or cross, but given the price of these phones I thought I should ask first...


Should be no problem as long as you don't short out the connections.

post #623 of 903

Yeah I'll have to do that also with my amp since it's from the early 80s. Not sure banana plugs were invented (or certainly not popular) by then. I have some speaker wire and electrical tape that will do them just fine.


Edited by Maxvla - 9/20/10 at 10:42pm
post #624 of 903

ok, so in other words:

 


Edited by rhythmdevils - 9/20/10 at 11:04pm
post #625 of 903

Hm.. Looky what I found.

 

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/27-4305&CAWELAID=220317718

 

27-4305.jpg

In-line Banana plug adapter. I can use my speaker wires that are terminated in banana and plug the HE-6 into the other side. Or I can whip up a pair of cables with bananas just for the HE-6 so I can hear speakers and headphones without swapping cables. This is much better than trusting some loose wiring and tape, and they're only $0.69 each.


Edited by Maxvla - 9/21/10 at 12:23am
post #626 of 903
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Thanks for the detailed impressions - hopefully sometime in the future you can try them again in a different rig and see if the problem is due to poor synergy with your gear, or if they just aren't your cup of tea.  It's still a bit of an unknown how some speaker amps will respond to a 60 ohm load, instead of 4-8 ohm load we typically see with speakers.  I found a wide variation in sound between a 5 watt Travagans, 8 watt Qinpu A-3 and ZDT, 12 watt Nuforce, and 55 watt Yamaha.  The HE-6 sounded a bit different with each one of those amps, as did the K1000 when I had a pair.

Larry thanks for the suggestion. I had heard them on the NAD 316BEE but for a short period and also on Aaron Dared 300B amp and had different impressions as well. The 2150RR is very balanced and drives the Maggies so well which is also a planar. But I would like to hear them on some other amps as well.
 

post #627 of 903

I shipped the HE6 to Short Hills to Natural Music so he will have them tomorrow. Alan enjoy.

post #628 of 903

It was more of a thank you to Fang & a show of respect when I bubble wrapped the cables & placed each in a separate bag. Glad they arrived in great condition. Can't wait for your initial impressions.
 

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A huge box just arrived!  Nice packing job KB!  Double boxed, and even the cables were bubble wrapped.  Yowzers. 

 

Unfortunately my computer crashed a couple days ago and until I get everything loaded onto the new one, I have no source!    Should be up tomorrow though.

 

So...I'm listening to them with my iphone right now.  I don't know what you're talking about these being hard to drive, they sound great!!!    Really, they do.  I'm at full volume though, and I only have one album on my phone- The Antlers, which has no bass or dynamics to speak of.  But it's rendering the slightly shrill, light sound of this album in a beautifully smooth and effortless way.  But I'll shut up before the head-fi police put a price on my head.

post #629 of 903

Hi Frank,

I have one question about your seating position that also came to mind when I was at your house. Because your living room is pretty much a square (perfect a setup for the Maggies, I must include that the Maggies were the best sounding speakers in the ($600 range (absolue steal), they could use some help in the 20-50 Hz range Although they held their own in the bass department, it if you're looking for perfection).

You had to move you listening seat, which had to be moved out of the way from you 2 channel listening area, to listen to the Maggie's Planars to get the whole listening experience...

 

But, in reality, wouldn't you have to do that with any headphone?

post #630 of 903
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Originally Posted by immtbiker View Post

Hi Frank,

I have one question about your seating position that also came to mind when I was at your house. Because your living room is pretty much a square (perfect a setup for the Maggies, I must include that the Maggies were the best sounding speakers in the ($600 range (absolue steal), they could use some help in the 20-50 Hz range Although they held their own i the bass department, it if you're looking for perfection).

You had to move you listening sea, which had to be moved out of the way from you 2 channel listening area, to listen to the Maggie's Planars to get the whole listening experience,

 

But, in reality, wouldn't you hve to do that with any headphone?

 

 


You also were listening to the Maggies and we had the sub off which when on provides the low bass needed to cover the low bass and mid bass. With the sub on It is so much better. Also the speakers cost 600.00 and add the price of the sub so your looking at 1K for a full range speaker.
 

I do not need to use a speaker amp with other headphones and can sit more comfortable than upsetting my listening room as I did to listen to the HE6. Really makes no sense to listen and rearrange the room when I go to where my head rig is and I have three seating areas where I need not rearrange anything. So the inconvenience of  using the headphones with a 20 ft cable really does not appeal to me. I do not even do that with cans  It just does not work for me that way.Next time you stop over I will let you hear the maggies with the sub and use the Decware as a preamp. I promise you jaw will drop.

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