Power Cables... Really?
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:10 PM Post #301 of 417
At least I do organize meets and give the opportunity to audition cables. Never seen a non-cable believer organize a meet to prove cables do not make a difference?
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:15 PM Post #302 of 417
You think such a meet would be popular? The only people who would show up are nonbelievers.
 
Besides, as evident already, no matter how many blind tests are performed adamant believers like you would never accept them as proof. It's easier for us and more effective as a whole to demand evidence supporting differences from you, because you never have anything objective.
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:28 PM Post #303 of 417
Just don't talk about it? DO SOMETHING TO PROVE YOUR POINT.............. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM Post #304 of 417
Right back at ya.
 
There's plenty of blind tests that already prove our (my) point. But of course, like I just said, you don't believe them. I've seen nothing but subjectivity from you.
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:38 PM Post #305 of 417


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Right back at ya.
 
There's plenty of blind tests that already prove our (my) point. But of course, like I just said, you don't believe them. I've seen nothing but subjectivity from you.


Yeah, I believe the burden of proof lies with the person who claims to hear a difference, and not vice-versa. 
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:40 PM Post #306 of 417
Beeman.. take a closer look.
 
And please, take a closer look at what I wrote, keeping my comment in context to the question asked.
 
"I'm relatively new to these forums, but has it always been this way?"
 
"Yes it has.  This need by the anti-cable guys to control others has been going on for decades."
 
And it has been going on for decades.  I stated my piece and it's now time to simply read posts and listen to the sweet dulcet jazz tones emanating from the headphones as I contemplate the arrival of the newly ordered custom headphone cables in a week or so.
 
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Jul 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM Post #307 of 417
Where are YOUR blind tests? I've organized a meet next Saturday. Will bring several cables to try out. Usually organize a meet every 3 months or so since 2008. How many meets have you been to again? I am a Doer. How would you describe yourself?
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:47 PM Post #308 of 417
BIG POPPA, good for you for your efforts.
 
(Need some sort of clapping hands emoticon here)
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:50 PM Post #309 of 417
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Where are YOUR blind tests? I've organized a meet next Saturday. Will bring several cables to try out. Usually organize a meet every 3 months or so since 2008. How many meets have you been to again? I am a Doer. How would you describe yourself?


I don't need to do blind tests, not on myself. I don't believe. So you'll just confront my results with things like "lead ears", "cheap equipment", "biased", etc. The people who believe are the ones that need to do the blind tests the most, as they not only are the ones who proclaim that there are audible differences, but they have reason to put forth effort in passing the test.
 
I never asked about your meets. They're not relevant AT ALL to the discussion. I'm asking for proof, not believer activism.
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:53 PM Post #310 of 417
If I'm not mistaken is a lot harder to prove a negative...I do not think is that easy either to establish the evidence of an absence. What I do have seen is the absence of the evidence, as the opposite has never been defined neither, otherwise what is proven is not arguable...Earth is round, try to prove is flat now...
 
As a side note, what I do have seen here in all these years, is a tendency on the believers in trying to control the headfiers minds, the non believers were even segregated to a different part of the forum, to keep the things the way they want them to be... 
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 10:58 PM Post #311 of 417
the non beleivers were even segregated to a different part fo the forum, to keep the things the way they want them to be...
 
And yet, here you are.
 
(need a whistling emoticon here)
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 11:08 PM Post #313 of 417
So you support segregation? That's not very open-minded of you.
 
I just can't catch a break.
 
(lol)
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Jul 11, 2010 at 11:08 PM Post #314 of 417
Beeman, I'm never say that I'm not a non believer of cables. I'm a believer in common sense, and cables will never be a priority number one for me, as the differences they may introduce, if any, are small enough to put them in that place...
 
I'm still, even against my common sense, open minded enough to let anybody prove me wrong, but till the date noobdy had, and it is more, there is million buckaros waiting for a few audiophiles to prove Randy wrong...but hey what do I know?
Myself, I use BJC's, that are not stock cables, they are very well done, and offer a good quality for the money, if you get me tomorrow silver cables for that same price, and same manufacture quality, hey I will get them in a heartbeat!!! 
 
I do not believe in power cords...that is for sure...
 
Jul 11, 2010 at 11:17 PM Post #315 of 417


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I just listed every, cable-discussion thread I could find in the past 5 pages of this forum.
 
There is NOT ONE PERSON(nonbeliever) who interrupted any of these threads to try and convert anyone.
Not a single one
 
There may be a small handful out there who may feel the urge to intrude, but that doesn't represent the majority of us.
 
We let all of you cable believers spend your money how you want, talk about the different cables as you want, and believe what you want.  Heck, the mods here even went as far as administering a dbt-free rule on these boards.
 
Only when a newbie or someone comes to these threads asking if cables make a difference do we put in our opinion.
If someone asks if its worth paying for expensive cables, then we have the right to say no.
If someone asks how a cable makes a difference, we have the right to say it doesn't.
 
 
 
We are NOT forcing anybody to conformity.  
Just making sure that people make an informed decision


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We're not here to rain on someones parade if they already enjoy their cables but if someone asks us we are perfectly free express our opinions, present our arguments, and ask the other side to do the same.
 

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