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Which is the Easiest to Drive - HD800 / T1 / PS1000 / ED8 ?

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

I know that sources and amps for full-sized cans are a different world from those for IEMs, but if I want to make use of my current source and amp for my IEMs, currently the Hifiman HM801 and the RSA Black Bird (trading for a RSA Protector soon), which of the following headphones would probably be the best of my choice? I am well aware that my gear probably can't push any of them to their full potential, but which of these will sound least differently with desktop gear?

 

1. Sennheiser HD800

2. Beyerdynamics T1

3. Grado PS1000

4. Ultrasone ED8

post #2 of 28
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Anyone? Appreciate your thoughts.

post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 

Let me put this another way - Which of the following headphones has the least impedence and is easier to drive than others?

 

1. Sennheiser HD800

2. Beyerdynamics T1

3. Grado PS1000

4. Ultrasone ED8

post #4 of 28

unless i'm mistaken, the beyers are 600 ohms, and the senns are 300 ohms.

so the grado and ultrasone are left to duke it out...  don't know the ohms/sensitivity of either...

 

post #5 of 28

If I'm not mistaken all Grados are 32ohms.  Not sure about Ultrasone's. I'm sure someone with more knowledge than myself can answer this for you though.

post #6 of 28

Probably the ED8, don't they terminate in a 3.5mm plug by default? Indicating what they're intended to be driven from :)

post #7 of 28

Yes the ED 8 is marketed as a portable headphone. But the T1 is very efficient as well. Both can be driven out of an Ipod 3G touch.

post #8 of 28

But you wouldn't really buy a T1 to use for an iPod.

post #9 of 28

If you're not going to be able to push them to their 'full potential' why buy such expensive headphones? 

post #10 of 28

Ultrasone Edition 8, Grado PS1000, ..., Sennheiser HD800, ..., Beyerdynamic T1. The last two are disputably usable with DAPs.

post #11 of 28

Wait, what, you trying to say the HD800 and T1 are usable with DAPs? Well, they technically are but there's really no point. 

post #12 of 28

I was too humble to say I find the HD800 and the T1 useless for DAPs and similar stuff.

post #13 of 28

Yeah, they're definitely not 'useless' but not recommendable.

post #14 of 28

Why shouldn´t you use them if they are better then lesser headphones on better amps? Koss Porta Pro get slaughtered by the T1 on my Ipod. I just took that as an example you could use soundcards and such which is a bit better as well. There is no problem getting good volume out of them.

 

I agree it´s not portable for a dime though but we aren´t talking portability here are we just how easy they are to drive or how good they sound on lesser amping?

 

Of course the T1 is by definition over priced even if you have the best source or amp in the world but I think most people know that when buying 1000$+ headphones :)

 

I personally would think it would make more sense to get a T1 and cheap amp rather then say a K701/HD 650 or something and better more expgensive amping. Same money in the end isn´t it? Even on my receiver the T1 was clearly superior to those headhones.


Edited by oqvist - 6/11/10 at 5:55am
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post

I personally would think it would make more sense to get a T1 and cheap amp rather then say a K701/HD 650 or something and better more expensive amping. Save money in the end isn´t it? Even on my receiver the T1 was clearly superior to those headhones.


ED8 aside, that is the question isn't it? RSA Protector to T1/HD800/PS1K (~$1400-$2000) versus say, Burson HA160 to DT880 (<$1K). I'm not convinced the former combo would win this, given what I've heard of the T1, but I don't gave the gear to test the hypothesis either, so hopefully someone can help. 

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