Originally Posted by JxK
"Many people don't use equalizers"
But lots of us do. I still think that for the price the option should be there, to say nothing of the 801. (personally, I think that for anyone over 40 an equalizer becomes a necessity)
I find more often than not, the need for an equalizer is an attempt to compensate for the shortcoming of the frequency response in a specific headphone.
Originally Posted by JxK
"The firmware for the 801 is now mostly glitch free and they're constantly working on it"
And it's statements like that which make me so wary and doubtful of the product. If I, the consumer, am going to buy an $800 DAP - the most expensive available on the market- I should expect perfect firmware. It should be a non-issue. That it wasn't when it first came out, and apparently still isn't (even if it's close now), is utterly inexcusable. It is unprofessional, and frankly disrespectful to the consumer.
But more importantly, it makes me wonder. Why does a company purportedly committed to excellence and quality release a faulty product? And moreover, if they can overlook something as obvious as poor UI, what else are they willing to overlook? My 02. cents.
Faulty product? Really? Have you ever used an HM-801 extensively? I found it very usable from Day One, and I preordered one of the very first ones with the early firmware. Was it perfect? Of course not, gapless playback is probably the most glaring fault now. But to call it poor and useless is unfounded. Even the much revered Sansa Clip+'s firmware is far from perfect. (folder browsing anyone?). And to point to Rockbox as the solution is laughable, as it's not 100% stable yet, and is a 3rd party solution. No manufacturer supports it as default, it's a hack that you have to do yourself, and other people have to write the firmware themselves. No one's stepped up and started hacking and compiling their own firmware for the HM-801 yet. Would it be great to have Rockbox alternative to stock HifiMan firmware? Of course, but there are only people complaining about the firmware and not anyone actually doing anything about it.
The HM-602 addresses the many complaints that people had about the HM-801. Size, weight, cost, and button arrangement. In turn it also inherits many of the advantages from the HM-801, like superior audio quality. But of course, it compromises there a bit, as it's not quite as excellent in the SQ department as the HM-801, IMO (at least with my first listen at CanJam).
When gapless playback is finally added to the firmware, I'm considering the firmware final. Any other additions will be extra tweaks that will be appreciated. But yes, gapless needs to be fixed.
If you value slick and fancy UI over sound quality, just make a trip to the Apple store. Maybe this product is not for you.
Edited by Edwood - 6/18/10 at 4:13pm