HiFiMAN 602: Talk about your initial impressions and specs - Page 80

HD650 and RE262. Both are kinda "mid-centric" also. And I like to have a bit more bass and treble, like you do.

So what?! I should buy Beyer T1?!

HE-4 gets lots of bass from the 602

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Originally Posted by .Sup 

HE-4 gets lots of bass from the 602

I'm really starting to enjoy my 602 & I've decided to add the HE-4 to the mix. I'm using my Zen Head portable amp w/ my 602 w/ my Denon AH-D5000 phones . I'm not dissatisfied with this combo. It's very decent sounding, but when I listen to speakers I listen to Magneplanars. Due to my current work schedule I haven't been able to spend much "quality time" listening to my "Maggies". I can listen to planars portably? I will find a way to make them work, regardless of the "naysayers". If need be I'll add a more powerful amp. (Hey, a couple years ago I questioned why someone could'nt reverse engineer a portable product that could do what the Wadia Ipod dock could do. Take the digital signal from an Ipod so that a "real" dac could be used not the "indescriminate" dacs the "computer" company executives deemed "good enough for Ipod". Guess what ? It appears someone engineered this product finally! , but those of us who are'nt keen on waiting , went out & found DAPs made by companies who actually knew something about making players that were capable of better than typical MP3 sound. I cringe every time I even hear the term MP3, Oh well enough of this...) Hmmm... "portable Maggies" (or an appoximation of such, at least!)  I want them !
 

There are planar headphones (see Audez'e) and electrostatics (see Stax) out there. You do have to pay considerable sums for them though.

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Originally Posted by nickosiris 

There are planar headphones (see Audez'e) and electrostatics (see Stax) out there. You do have to pay considerable sums for them though.

Not necessarily. You can get the Stax entry system 2170 for around $700 shipped from Japan, and I think it's a steal at this price.

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Originally Posted by kostalex 

So what?! I should buy Beyer T1?!

The T1 is a 600Ω headphone. I don't think that you will yield the best results out of the Beyers that you can get without a powerful amp, be it portable or desktop.

You are right. I forgot this though I already knew. I discovered before that T1 are power-hungry - http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/483027/beyerdynamic-t1-mid-fi-gear.

Well, I tried HM-602 with Beyer T50p, supraural portable Tesla.Very nice mids, bass is lacking depth. I read this is a "feature" of T50p, though I bet HM-602 took its part here. Summary: interesting, but not better than HM-602 > HD650.

I'm currently listening to an Egon Wellesz symphony(from a CPO cd, very nicely recorded, Naxos should require their engineers to learn from the CPO production team, it could help them with their tendency to produce very mediocre sounding orchestral recordings!) through my HM-602/ HE-4s/Zen Head portable amp. As I mentioned it is a nice recording w/ lots of nice apparent hall ambience & sounstage information. If I had to pick an area to criticize it would be the mid frenquency sound are a bit recessed. I've read that this is a common trait of the HE-4s when new & basically unbroken in (I have less than 20hrs of play time on them including 2 or 3 full Purist Audio Designs burn in CD cycles) . Bass is tight & punchy & fairly well extended. The treble is pleasing with nice detail & sparkle. All in all you can tell you are listening to full range uncompressed recordings & not the MP3 versions of such. I've gone inside my Zen Head amp & tried different setting w/ the internal switches, The current setting that seem to work best for the time being are these. The input switch is set to 10k, crossfeed switch is on (crossfeed done correctly,& I believe very tastefully in this amp, sounds much more realistic to me) & the gain switch is set to high. There is absolutely room for improvement (more midrange prominence/extension), but I'm pretty pleased w/ the sound I'm getting. I won't even give this set-up a backhanded compliment by saying "very decent for a portable set-up", because I know there are many people listening to home mid fi systems that are'nt as good sounding as this (but I also realize that my "portable rig" may be more expensive than what their home rig expense was(What was I getting to ?, who knows,I'm a crazed audiophile) .