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post #31 of 94
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post

since the 840s i have came with an extra set, i might have to try this.

 

i didn't really find that the "balance mod" did anything, to my ears anyway.

 

so, this will be a final effort to coerce some midrange out of the m50s before offloading them...

 


Really?  You taped up 6 holes on each side and noticed no difference??  My ears simply don't agree w/ that.  

 

I really don't get the whole recessed or sucked out mids people hear on the M50.  The mids measure pretty flat from 300-4k.  I don't know if some are listening at low volumes or what.  Fletcher-Munson comes to mind here. 

 

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post #32 of 94
i taped up two holes on top, two holes on bottom. with masking tape. maybe i'll try it again with different holes and different quantity. as said, it made no difference to my ears, so i abandoned trying different arrangements... perhaps a bit premature.
post #33 of 94

just ordered a set of 440 earpads for my M50's yesterday. Ill take some pics and let u guys know what I think when they get here.

post #34 of 94
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post

i taped up two holes on top, two holes on bottom. with masking tape. maybe i'll try it again with different holes and different quantity. as said, it made no difference to my ears, so i abandoned trying different arrangements... perhaps a bit premature.


Yeah the 2 holes mod is barely noticeable so I went straight to the 6.  Better to go more than peel off working backwards.  

post #35 of 94
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Originally Posted by Tony6225 View Post

just ordered a set of 440 earpads for my M50's yesterday. Ill take some pics and let u guys know what I think when they get here.


Looking forward to it.  Any reason you didn't go for the 840's?

post #36 of 94
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post




Yeah the 2 holes mod is barely noticeable so I went straight to the 6.  Better to go more than peel off working backwards.  


okay...  redid the mod, and applied the 840 pads.  and things are sounding pretty nice.

i don't notice that there's much less bass.  but perhaps it's a bit more focused???

strangely the soundstage is just a touch bigger maybe.

and, as the shure pads are smoother, they seal with the skin a touch better.  so i'm getting maybe a tick better isolation...

 

but, it's an improvement.

it's just hard to quantify.  yet it sounds a little bit better...


 

edit:

and i probably won't be the first to point out that the m50 pads start off alright but get crusty awfully quick.  and compress somewhat with wear.

so, maybe part of what i'm hearing with the shure pads is the drivers now restored to their proper distance from the ear.  and the better seal from a smoother pad, not a crusty one...

 

cheers guys!


Edited by TheWuss - 7/28/10 at 5:43pm
post #37 of 94

Cheers!  

 

Tell us more about the 840 pads.  Way more comfy?  Ears heat up or sweat?

 

Yeah the mod doesn't really reduce the Bass too much, but IMO it focuses it and controls it getting it away from the mids.  Sounds more balanced to me.  Haven't tried modding the enclosure yet to tighten up the plastic and deal w/ reflection.

post #38 of 94
A little more comfy to me than the m50 pads. The smoother surface and higher sealing factor does mean a little more perspiration accumulates on the pads. Whenever i take them off i wipe them off on my shirt or something else...
post #39 of 94
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post




Looking forward to it.  Any reason you didn't go for the 840's?

I had no idea that they actually fit. Nor did I know that this thread existed. According to someone in the thread about the velour pads for the m50, the 840 pads were big and too loose on the m50's.
 

post #40 of 94

The 840 pads are deeper than the stock pads, even compared to brand new stock pads. Imho this makes them quite a bit more comfortable, it is probably why the soundstage increases a little too.  I think they are a big improvement overall.

post #41 of 94

yes.  just to share an update.

the m50 moves up a considerable amount in my book.

 

i recently upgraded my work rig (from an ibasso d4) to the nuforce HDP.

and, i feel that at least a small part of my qualms with the m50 was the source and amp.

 

the balance mod and 840 pads are helping as well.  it's just hard to say the degree.

 

the pads, to me, are definitely worth it.

 

what i was hearing before, was a sort of veiled or slightly recessed vocal.  that wasn't there for the first while i had my m50.  i attributed this to burn-in and the headphones settling into its final sound signature.

which, in my book, wasn't great.

 

however, i honestly think it was mostly due to the bass, which had loosened up during burn in and began stepping on the mids.  and the stock pads squishing down considerably and becoming crusty.

 

whatever the real science here, the results are a better sounding set of cans.  and i'm happy for now. 

post #42 of 94
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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post

yes.  just to share an update.

the m50 moves up a considerable amount in my book.

 

i recently upgraded my work rig (from an ibasso d4) to the nuforce HDP.

and, i feel that at least a small part of my qualms with the m50 was the source and amp.

 

the balance mod and 840 pads are helping as well.  it's just hard to say the degree.

 

the pads, to me, are definitely worth it.

 

what i was hearing before, was a sort of veiled or slightly recessed vocal.  that wasn't there for the first while i had my m50.  i attributed this to burn-in and the headphones settling into its final sound signature.

which, in my book, wasn't great.

 

however, i honestly think it was mostly due to the bass, which had loosened up during burn in and began stepping on the mids.  and the stock pads squishing down considerably and becoming crusty.

 

whatever the real science here, the results are a better sounding set of cans.  and i'm happy for now. 



Thanks for the info im definetly going to get these now because my M50 pads are breaking down.

post #43 of 94

Thats good news!  I keep saying I don't think the mids are recessed, its just a a matter of controlling the bass to my ears.  Its sounds like you are starting the get the most out of your M50's.  My next concern would be the plastic enclosure.

post #44 of 94
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

Thats good news!  I keep saying I don't think the mids are recessed, its just a a matter of controlling the bass to my ears.  Its sounds like you are starting the get the most out of your M50's.  My next concern would be the plastic enclosure.


yeah.... anybody wanna pop theirs open and try some dynamat??? 

post #45 of 94

I'm not even going to attempt a mod that reduces bass.

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