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post #5251 of 5546

I found ES5 with DX100 amazing. I still remember what it sounds like after so long has passed since I sold the DX100 off for tuition...

post #5252 of 5546

I just wonder how ES5 sounds compared to SONY EX1000? Especially the midrange, treble and bass.

I know they are not even comparable, but EX1000 is my only earbuds.

post #5253 of 5546

Happy Thanksgiving and Happy 5 listening!  duggehsmile.png

post #5254 of 5546

Hey guys,

 

Been a while since I've posted in this thread. After pursuing two customs, I fine-tuned my home rig. But every time I pulled out the ES5, I thought how great they sounded. I started A/Bing them with comparable (in price) full-size cans, like the Ultrasone Signature Pro. Unfortunately, the Sig Pro has a sonic signature more to my liking. In comparison, the ES5 sounded congested and dark. After studying various measurements from Golden Ears I have come up with an EQ curve that I think preserves the glorious mids of the ES5, but offers more bass extension, and more air up top, widening the soundstage, and becoming quite a listen in my opinion. It's a totally different earphone. More fun, more vivid, more engaging. 

 

Compared to the Sig Pro, the ES5 is just not as natural sounding in soundstage, and I will never be able to EQ in the sparkle, shimmer and detail up top that the Sig Pro has. However, this is a matter of preference as the ES5 has a more forward sound signature and isn't so laid back, which is preferable with much of my music, for me. The mids are so clean, and the bass so tight on the ES5. For on the go, it can't be beat, and I have no desire to tote around the Sig Pro outside of home. 

 

Obviously, I wish I didn't have to EQ anything, but this is so satisfying for me, I thought I'd share my tweak. See what you think. It's a basic EQ on a basic 10-band:

 

32Hz - +5db

64 - +3

128 - +1

256 - -1

4K - +3

8K - +1.5

16K - +5

post #5255 of 5546
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Unfortunately, the Sig Pro has a sonic signature more to my liking. In comparison, the ES5 sounded congested and dark. After studying various measurements from Golden Ears I have come up with an EQ curve that I think preserves the glorious mids of the ES5, but offers more bass extension, and more air up top, widening the soundstage, and becoming quite a listen in my opinion. It's a totally different earphone. More fun, more vivid, more engaging. 

Compared to the Sig Pro, the ES5 is just not as natural sounding in soundstage, and I will never be able to EQ in the sparkle, shimmer and detail up top that the Sig Pro has.

This is the funny thing I observed about the ES5. Everytime when I do a head to head comparison of the ES5 against another iem/headphone (Fitear TG!334 included) I always thought that they sounded better than the ES5. However, when I listen to only the ES5 or only another iem/headphone, I will feel that the ES5 is still better and more natural sounding.
post #5256 of 5546
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Hey guys,

 

Been a while since I've posted in this thread. After pursuing two customs, I fine-tuned my home rig. But every time I pulled out the ES5, I thought how great they sounded. I started A/Bing them with comparable (in price) full-size cans, like the Ultrasone Signature Pro. Unfortunately, the Sig Pro has a sonic signature more to my liking. In comparison, the ES5 sounded congested and dark. After studying various measurements from Golden Ears I have come up with an EQ curve that I think preserves the glorious mids of the ES5, but offers more bass extension, and more air up top, widening the soundstage, and becoming quite a listen in my opinion. It's a totally different earphone. More fun, more vivid, more engaging. 

 

Compared to the Sig Pro, the ES5 is just not as natural sounding in soundstage, and I will never be able to EQ in the sparkle, shimmer and detail up top that the Sig Pro has. However, this is a matter of preference as the ES5 has a more forward sound signature and isn't so laid back, which is preferable with much of my music, for me. The mids are so clean, and the bass so tight on the ES5. For on the go, it can't be beat, and I have no desire to tote around the Sig Pro outside of home. 

 

Obviously, I wish I didn't have to EQ anything, but this is so satisfying for me, I thought I'd share my tweak. See what you think. It's a basic EQ on a basic 10-band:

 

32Hz - +5db

64 - +3

128 - +1

256 - -1

4K - +3

8K - +1.5

16K - +5

 

Strange, because in my case "congested and dark" could NEVER be how my ES5 would be described.  That would better describe my old Ultrasone Edition 9 or Darth Beyers.  

 

When I first got the ES5 they sounded a bit bright to me for the first few days.  They truly did tame after a couple of days of playing music through them, which is unusual for a balanced armature IEM to change with burn-in, but ever since then I have enjoyed them immensely.  They are the closest thing Westone has to the JH16 right now.

 

Maybe your ES5 don't have tips that are deep enough, or they are too deep, or the openings hit against some flesh in your ear canal, or something like that?

post #5257 of 5546
I certainly find the ES5 to have a clean presentation with lots of detail and nuance. There is nothing dark or congested in the sound. I have played with and abandoned EQing. I certainly wouldn't add a V-shaped EQ profile. The only alteration to the sound that I have found beneficial is crossfeed to eliminate the superstereo effect. This is one of the reasons I consider my Rockboxed Classic to be an fine portable source with the ES5.
post #5258 of 5546

Well I had the exact symptoms of SoundFreaq, but was remedied entirely with my aftermarket cables from DHC.

post #5259 of 5546

Thanks for the replies, guys. Now I am thinking about fit issues. I never really thought they were lacking in the high end til I A/B'd with the Sig Pro. The SP is NOT a bright phone, and is similar to the Edition 9 SS. I've heard much brighter in the HD800 and HiFiMAN stuff. Compared to the SP, my ES5 seriously lacks air, sparkle, shimmer and detail up high. I can EQ in some of it, but it still does not sound as natural. 

 

I wish you could hear the Sig Pro. Maybe it really is that amazing. 

post #5260 of 5546
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

Well I had the exact symptoms of SoundFreaq, but was remedied entirely with my aftermarket cables from DHC.

 

Hmmm... You like the Symbiote? I usually don't consider cabling to have such a dramatic effect. 

post #5261 of 5546

Me neither, but the Symbiote really opened up the top end, air, sparkle, shimmer, detail, etc. I think some here remember me complaining about this early on when I first got my ES5, but after getting the symbiote, I stopped whining because everything was fixed. :| It's strange how sometimes cables don't make such a noticeable difference, but other times, it does. Symbiote certainly shocked me.

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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

 

Hmmm... You like the Symbiote? I usually don't consider cabling to have such a dramatic effect. 


Edited by Girls Generation - 11/28/12 at 11:00am
post #5262 of 5546

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post #5263 of 5546

About average.

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post #5264 of 5546

You're gonna kill my wallet, brother. biggrin.gif

post #5265 of 5546
Never felt the ES5 sounded dark or congested either. Those are pretty much the last words I'd use to describe them and I'm coming from SA5Ks. Those things are like staring into the sun lol
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