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post #8656 of 8660

Thanks for folks who responded.

Obviously, a newbies question here..but, 50 percent of my desktop volume is too loud for me. I am curious why I need an amp at all, I understand the DAC part, but not the amp. Can anyone please refer me to an article or something which explains this in a lucid manner. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by kashmiami View Post
 

Thanks for folks who responded.

Obviously, a newbies question here..but, 50 percent of my desktop volume is too loud for me. I am curious why I need an amp at all, I understand the DAC part, but not the amp. Can anyone please refer me to an article or something which explains this in a lucid manner. Thanks!


Amps are not just about loudness, it is also about the quality of the sound presentation at different volume levels.

Quality amps performing well below their peak limit usually offer better low-end control/presence, dynamics, sound-stage, micro-detail.

They also have a unique overall tonality....from cool/dry along the sliding scale lush/rich.

Paired right, they can also give the various deficiencies of various headphones an 'audio repair' towards YOUR target overall SQ preference.

post #8658 of 8660
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Originally Posted by kashmiami View Post
 

I recently bought the LCD 2.2, I don't have an amp yet.

Even without the amp, listening to it from the laptop--they sound incredible. better than the Grado 225's I had.[execept mids]

2 questions.

1)Do I need an amp, if I do-- can anyone reccomend a portable amp.

2)Some of the female singer voices are in background when compared to male & the mids are a tad bit recessed. Are these actual issues or are they due to a lack of amp. I do not want to return these back if I can figure out these issues. I love the bass.

Thanks in advance for your time.

I bought a Chord Mojo for portable/computer use but its finished up replacing my Schiit Asgard in my main system and sounds fantastic with my LCD2Fs.  You do need a digital signal but it has optical, coaxial and USB options.  Don't let its diminutive size fool you - it's got bags of power and its digital to analogue conversation puts the sound out from a laptop, PC or phone into the same league as set ups costing serious money.  If you've been using the headphone out from a laptop you're likely to be amazed by the sound quality you can get via the Mojo - just make sure you're using uncompressed files to get the most from it.

 

I very much much doubt you'll have any of the problems you describe via the Mojo.  I'm finding the Mojo/LCD2F coupling wonderful from any source.

post #8659 of 8660

Hey guys... First post here...

 

I am considering buying LCD-2 but I am in big doubt about the amp...

 

My main source is from Vinyl of my dedicated stereo system ( PM6004 + Pro-Ject Debut III ).

 

At first I was convinced to go with a Gustard H10. But lately, after some reviews, I have start to thinking about the micro iDSD. 

 

Although my main focus is my stereo system it would be nice to have a portable amp/dac that I could take with me on travel, or even to another room and use with my laptop or iPhone.

 

So, I have some questions and wanna see if you help me.

 

Will I be missing something in terms of sound quality / capability going micro iDSD instead of H10 ?

 

In terms of power, how the two compare ?

 

As far as I could see, to use the micro iDSD I will need an RCA from my stereo out to 3.5mm in the iDSD. Are there any loss of quality going this route ? Will I be able to charge the iDSD while using it through the 3.5mm input ?

 

Another possibility would be both a Gustard H10 and a small AMP/DAC like nano iDSD ou DragonFly, but I don't know if these ones can drive satisfactory the LCD-2.

 

I don't know if it makes any difference but, about 80% of my listening is extreme metal.

 

Thanks a lot for the help !

 

Updated: JDS Labs The Element or some schiit may also be an option


Edited by ruddypulido - 7/27/16 at 7:06am
post #8660 of 8660

To be honest, I found that even portable amps do a decent job on headphones.

 

I have used 3 amps: Fiio E17, Fiio E12 and Asgard 1.

Tested on HE-400 and HD600.

 

When comparing the sound from the mp3 alone (Cowon i9) to the Fiio E17, there was a substantial difference, mostly in bass.

However, from there to E12 and Asgard 1 the difference was small. I had to A/B, other way it was way too similar, and we are talking of 250 mW (into 16 Ohm) on the E17 to 1 W (on 50 Ohm) on the asgard.

 

When going from cowon i9 to bifrost multibit, the volume went up nuts (on the asgard), and I went from listening at 70-80% of volume to 50%.

 

In other words, unless the Amp is of poor quality, Id assume that the LCD-2 will be driven well with anything that has close to 1 W (how well it will synergize is another thing at all, since thats sound signature and that is subjective).

 

I can confirm however that Valhalla is NOT a good option for planar as my HE-400 on it did not have good volume, dynamics or even detail for that matter (of, no bass).

 

When I did listen to the LCD-2.2 Fazor it was on a Burson Soloist (the 4W version) but from the cowon i9. It sounded very good and quite loud on max volume (after I discovered the massive change of volume when using the Bifrost multibit as source with the asgard 1, my rough estimation is that the asgard will be enough for the LCD-2.2 fazor, but its an estimation).

 

 

Dont know if this helps much... :).

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