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post #7606 of 7690
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Originally Posted by CanadianMaestro View Post
 

USB audio is never as good as BNC coaxial digital.

I don't do computer audio anymore....why compromise?

 

I use Bryston BDP-1 BNC out for my digital files (via BDA-1 DAC), to headphone amp or to main speakers. It is NOT a streamer.

 

https://sites.google.com/site/audiomeisterssystem/audio-components/digital-player

 

Happy Listening!


So in your ranking would it be :-

 

BNC Coax

USB

Toslink optical ?

post #7607 of 7690
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Originally Posted by Lohb View Post
 


So in your ranking would it be :-

 

BNC Coax

USB

Toslink optical ?


For digital transmission with no signal reflection (i.e. best SQ) and absolute preservation over modest distances, 1. BNC coax, 2. USB, 3. Tos

 

James Tanner of Bryston recommended BNC to me two years ago, and he was right on. Use 75-ohm BNC connectors.

 

cheers, off to slumber. tiring day at the lab.

post #7608 of 7690
Not sure if anyone has commented on the LCD-2F with the Centrance M8? I am using the headphone output of my Meridian Explorer at about 70% volume ( 16/44 FLAC files, Windows 7 & Foobar2000). It's very nice, no major complaints. I use EasyQ to boost the bass and highs on some tracks that sound a bit dark, but mostly run flat without EQ.

I have purchased a good balanced cable.

I am looking for a bit more clarity, separation, bass, etc.
Thanks
Peter
Edited by peterinvan - 8/12/14 at 10:40pm
post #7609 of 7690

I sometimes use the lcd 2f with my m8, and I'm pretty happy with the result: coming from the hd650, I tried at the beginning to get closer to the sennheiser sound, adding a little more bass using the back switch, then with the time, I started preferring the "flat" setting and let the headphones sing their music. Volume wise at mid gain, I am ok at around 12 o'clock

post #7610 of 7690

alo's pan am!

post #7611 of 7690
Is it sensible to buy the LCD 2 for my fiio x5 with a suitable amp?? If so, what amp should I buy?
post #7612 of 7690

If it's the LCD-2 with Fazor, it's pretty easy to drive, it only would need about a 0.5 W of clean power. Depending on your budget, I'm sure there are some good options.

post #7613 of 7690
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Originally Posted by AN94Master View Post

Is it sensible to buy the LCD 2 for my fiio x5 with a suitable amp?? If so, what amp should I buy?

Yes in use my x5 with my lcd-3 and love it actually. Definately needs an amp though as it's pretty weak without one. Obvious recommendation is the E12 which is only around 100 too
post #7614 of 7690

AiDee / saxelrod92,

    So after receiving my set of LCD-2 rev 2 and playing around with different volume configurations i have found that the Shiit Asgard2 is more than enough to power these suckers.  I be a very happy listener now :)  

post #7615 of 7690
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Originally Posted by goldendarko View Post

Yes in use my x5 with my lcd-3 and love it actually. Definately needs an amp though as it's pretty weak without one. Obvious recommendation is the E12 which is only around 100 too
LCD has a 70 ohm impedance,about 20 more than the lcd 3. I'm on a tight budget so how much difference would I feel if I used, say, the schitt Valhalla 2 instead of the e12?I can't go beyond $400 for an amp. And doesn't the x5 have a powerful internal amp?
post #7616 of 7690
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Originally Posted by AN94Master View Post


LCD has a 70 ohm impedance,about 20 more than the lcd 3. I'm on a tight budget so how much difference would I feel if I used, say, the schitt Valhalla 2 instead of the e12?I can't go beyond $400 for an amp. And doesn't the x5 have a powerful internal amp?


not to go too deep into the whole science around the new impedance and sensitivity ratings for the LCD line, but basically the new LCD 3 is 110 ohm now I believe, close to there and the LCD 2 is indeed 70 ohm now. But they also have slightly higher sensitivity ratings, so despite a slightly higher impedance, they dont need as much power as they used to. If your budget is 400 for an amp then I would get something from schiit. When I was looking at amps for my LCD 2 before I bought it, I started small (a year later went big), and I was going to buy a schiit asgard 2. During my research I could not find another amp at that price with the same specs and high praise. and if you push your budget by 50 more dollars then you can get a lyr 2. I ended up getting the bifrost uber as my dac, and just went all out for my amp very recently. But a valhalla 2 is not a good for the LCD 2 because it has a high output impedance and low output power (unless someone here who uses this combo actually likes it for some reason).

post #7617 of 7690
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Originally Posted by AN94Master View Post



LCD has a 70 ohm impedance,about 20 more than the lcd 3. I'm on a tight budget so how much difference would I feel if I used, say, the schitt Valhalla 2 instead of the e12?I can't go beyond $400 for an amp. And doesn't the x5 have a powerful internal amp?

 



The amp on the X5 is pretty powerful by most standards (Compared to an iPhone for example) but it still only does 255 mW@32Ω and Audeze recommends at least 1-4 watts for the LCD-2. In my testing of the X5 alone without added amplification, well I would just say it's pointless even owning an LCD-2 if your not going to feed them with sufficient power as they sounded dull, lacking dynamics and clarity as well as body. Your really not getting what you paid $1000 for headphones for, a $100 E12 brings the juice that is needed to make the LCD-2 special.

As far as the Valhalla 2, it's not really meant for planars but would probably work ok, but the Schiit Lyr is really meant for those. In fact, Schiit's website even says about the V2, "You MAY even like it with high-efficiency planars like LCD-X, LCD-XC, Oppo PM-1 and HE-400" all of which are more efficient headphones than the LCD-2, so I don't think it would be a great match.

The Schiit Lyr 2 sells for $450 new, but the original can often be had on the for sale forums for around $300, if fact I think someone had one listed for $275 with extra tubes thrown in right now. The Lyr is also a noted pairing for the LCD-2, and IMO probably the best you can do for under $500. If your looking for something more portable or cheaper the FIIO E12 is a great pairing, and what I am currently using with my X5 as my portable rig. Hope this helps.
post #7618 of 7690

for portable use just get the hugo end of story, i tried today the alo pan am boy the hugo is miles better from pan am which had the siemens tubes


Edited by hykhleif - 8/15/14 at 2:41pm
post #7619 of 7690
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

for portable use just get the hugo end of story, i tried today the alo pan am boy the hugo is miles better from pan am which had the siemens tubes


 



Think he said his budget was $400, the Hugo is like $2500.
post #7620 of 7690
Just to be clear, exactly how much difference would it make if I use a $500-$1000 amp as compared to the E12 for the LCD 2 and x5 combo?
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